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Originally posted by Bob H:
GREEN BAY — Republicans!

There is only one party responsible and to hold accountable for our government shutdown. Republicans. All Republican “demands” should be and were handled by electoral and legislative processes. Democracy has not worked the way Republicans wanted, so now Republicans, by holding our future hostage, are bullying the President and the rest of us to meet their “demands.” There is no defense for such action.

Deficit concerns by debt hawks is misplaced.
Congress is responsible for budgets.
Congress holds the purse strings. A president can offer a budget, but only Congress passes one.

What Republicans are doing is hurtful and wrong.

A government shutdown, among other foolish, unnecessary and harmful effects, will add to the deficit by deflating job growth.

Lack of jobs and our inequitable tax system are far greater problems than spending is for our economy.

Republicans forced the government shutdown. Let’s hold Republicans responsible for their destructive behavior.


Vote those *******s out next election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The List: Unnecessarily Shut Down by Obama to Inflict Public Pain

While our president still enjoys his essential employees and locations: the White House chefs, Camp David, and a military golf course, there doesn't seem to be any question that in mercenary pursuit of a political win, this White House is determined to unreasonably punish as many everyday people as possible. And this includes children sick with cancer. That might sound like hyperbole, but it is not.

Although Barack Obama's chefs have been deemed "essential," employees at the National Institutes of Health who offer last-chance experimental cancer treatments for children suffering from cancer have not. Worse still, House Republicans have offered to compromise with the president and single the NIH out for funding. The White House has threatened a veto.

Using children sick with cancer as pawns is community organizing on steroids. And the media are covering for him. When the media thought they could emotionally blackmail the GOP with these sick children, telling their story was all the rage. Now that it is Obama and Senate Democrats wrist-flicking refusing treatment for these children, suddenly the media aren't too interested in telling their story.

There are many other examples of this president's cold-hearted fanaticism and willingness to punish people for reasons that seem to have much more to with spite than what is and is not "essential." In fact, there are a number of examples where Obama seems to be spending more money and using more resources to close and block and inconvenience than to just leave it alone.

The media may or may not report on these individual occurrences, but what they will never do is provide the American people with the full context and scope of Obama's shrill pettiness.

Below is a list of illogical, unnecessary, and shockingly spiteful moves our government is making in the name of essential and non-essential.

This list will be regularly updated, and if you have something you feel should be added, please email me at jnolte@breitbart.com or tweet me @NolteNC.

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1. Treatments for Children Suffering From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has threatened to veto this funding.

2. The World War II Memorial - The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to spitefully barricade the attraction.

The Republican National Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has threatened to veto that bill.

3. Furloughed Military Chaplains Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be punished for doing so.

4. Business Stops In Florida Keys - Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding. As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to ensure no business is done are "essential."

5. Obama Blacks Out Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the popular and fun stuff.

Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes overseas is non-essential.

6. Obama Closes D-Day Memorial - The GOP have offered to compromise and fund the National Parks. Obama has said he will veto this compromise legislation. As a result, along with 24 other military cemeteries, the D-Day memorial in Normandy has been barricaded.

7. Obama Tries to Close Privately-Funded Mt. Vernon - Although George Washington's Mt. Vernon estate is privately funded, the feds blocked visitors from entering the parking area because the Park Service maintains the lot. Apparently, the New Media publicity resulted in the feds backing down.

8. Obama Closes Over 100 Privately-Managed Parks That Cost No Money to Run - The U.S. Treasury actually makes money from the rent paid by a private company that "employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers across about a dozen states." No federal money is used to operate these parks. No federal employees are used to staff these parks. Taxpayers make a profit from these parks. Still, Obama had them closed and as a result 400-500 employees and a private business are taking it in the neck.

9. Obama Closes Self-Sustaining Colonial Farm It Hasn’t Supported Since 1980 - "For the first time in 40 years, the National Park Service (NPS) has finally succeeded in closing the Farm down to the public. In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm.”

10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin - "The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers."

11. Obama Closes Vietnam Memorial - The GOP have passed compromise legislation that would fund national memorials and parks, and open them to the public. Obama threatened a veto. Apparently, the "essential" government employees are those erecting barricades, not those who could keep the memorial open.

12. Obama Closes Privately-Owned Hotel, Police Block Parking Lot - "The operator of a 51-room inn located on U.S. government-owned land in North Carolina abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep the property open despite being ordered to close as part of the federal government shutdown."

October is this inn's prime season. The GOP have offered compromise funding opening the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise.

State troopers blocked customers from entering the inn's parking lot.

13. Park Service Ranger: 'We've Been Told to Make Life As Difficult For People As We Can' - “It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

14. Obama Forces Residents Out of Private Homes - "The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land."

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

15. Acadia Park In Maine Shut Down - '"We’ve been training for two years at CrossFit for this hike — no kidding,” Hart said. She added that the shutdown should be as inconvenient for the Washington politicians who caused it as it is for average citizens.'

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.

16. Historic Restaurant Open During Last Shutdown Forced to Close - "An iconic Philadelphia restaurant has been forced to close its doors and turn away booked parties because of the government shutdown. …

"Restaurant public relations director Molly Yun said they were notified there was a possibility a closure might happen, but they were allowed to remain open during the last government shutdown 17 years ago."

The restaurant is part of the federal park system, which the GOP have agreed to fund. Obama said he will veto the funding.

17. Obama Shuts Down a Road Tha Goes Through CO Park: "The Forest Service announcement, in turn, led the Pitkin County commissioners to order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the colorful leaf-changing season. Ahead of what is to be one of the busiest weekends of the fall, the road is to be closed to vehicles at T-Lazy-7 Ranch, pending a resolution to the government shutdown."

The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise funding.

18. Residents Plan Protest of Cape Hatteras Closing - "Businesses and residents on the Outer Banks have planned a peaceful protest of the closure of Hatteras Island's beaches due to the government shut down.

"The U.S. House Wednesday passed a measure to reopen national parks and monuments. It will now go to the U.S. Senate."

In the unlikely event the Democrat Senate passes the bill, Obama has threatened a veto of any compromise legislation opening the parks.

19. Obama Blocks People From LOOKING at Mt. Rushmore - "Blocking access to trails and programs at South Dakota’s most popular attraction was one thing, but state officials didn’t expect Congress’ budget stalemate to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.

"The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.

The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard’s chief of staff. The state asked that they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance."

20. Crucial USDA Websites Taken Down - "The U.S. Department of Agriculture has turned off its entire website in response to the government shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters and others with no way to access any of the agency's information online. …

"USDA's total website shutdown goes far beyond the response of other federal agencies, and seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the shutdown. Thursday morning calls to USDA's press office seeking an explanation were not answered."

This website is down and yet the ObamaCare and White House websites are up.

21. St. Louis Gateway Arch Closed - The GOP have agreed to compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

22. Park Shutdown Bounces Rowers from Potomac - "The ripple effect of a government shutdown has pushed rowers from the Potomac River.

"Multiple high schools rent space at the Thompson Boat Center in Georgetown. But like other places controlled by the National Park Service, it closed Tuesday morning."

The GOP have agreed to compromise funding opening the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.

23. Thompson Boat Center Closed In DC - The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.

24. Obama Closes Military Commissary - "Military members, veterans and families who shop at local tax-free store are shocked to discover the store's doors locked; no progress to end stalemate in Washington."

While the government has deemed the White House chefs "essential," working class military personnel have lost their tax-free store privileges.

Military personnel and their families tell me that they have never lost these privileges in previous shutdowns.

25. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says 'Drop Dead' - "Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn’t about the money — it’s about hurting the American people just because he can."





Gpa

Senate



Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) has been named the chief strategist behind the government shutdown, with Obamacare and the spending bill at its heart. It’s therefore more than understandable that Cruz might be defensive when faced with discord and dissatisfaction within his own party. Just two days ago, a Republican senator described the attack of fellow Republicans on Cruz — according to The Huffington Post — saying, “It just started a lynch mob.”


Cruz insists that in rallying fellow Tea Party members and Republicans into the present situation he had not damaged his party — “Not remotely,” said Cruz. “I also think far too many people are worried about politics” Cruz said discussing the shutdown, referring to “nasty partisan jabs from Democrats.”

Though Cruz believes his efforts haven’t left the Republican party with a black eye, the numbers don’t stand behind Cruz’s claims. Based on recent polls, the shutdown is not treating the Republican party well in terms of public opinion.



A poll conducted by Public Policy Polling – with a sample size in each district consisting of 600-700 registered voters — did not bode well for Republican popularity. Done over the end of last week, the poll showed that the Republican incumbents in 17 out of the 24 districts polled were found to be behind the generic Democrat in approval ratings.

Pollster Jim Williams illustrates just how significant those numbers are. In the National Journal,Williams explains that “Democrats must pick up 17 seats to win control of the House. These poll results make clear that if the election were held today, such a pickup would be well within reach.” Williams also notes that this defies “conventional wisdom that gerrymandering has put the House out of reach for Democrats,” a scary thought for House Republicans.

Separate polls from both CBS and Fox News corroborate these findings. CBS found that 3 days into the government shutdown 44 percent of Americans felt that Republicans in Congress were at fault, with only 35 percent placing the blame on President Obama and congressional Democrats.



The Fox News poll, conducted October 1 and 2, found that 25 percent of voters blame “Republican leaders such as John Boehner” for the shutdown, while 17 percent blame “Tea Party Republicans such as Ted Cruz.” With 24 percent blaming President Obama, and only 8 percent faulting “Democratic leaders such as Harry Reid.” In a show of force, 20 percent of those polled blamed everyone equally. On the basis of party lines, the poll showed 42 percent blaming the Republicans and 32 percent the Democrats.

Offering a final nail in the coffin, USA Today quotes a Quinnipiac Poll that came out Tuesday saying that 74 percent of Americans disapprove of Republican actions in Congress, compared to 60 percent of those polled who take issue with Democratic conduct.


The repubs with their stupidity by closing the Govt. down have lost the support of the majority of Americans.

Republicans are a joke......

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Offering a final nail in the coffin, USA Today quotes a Quinnipiac Poll that came out Tuesday saying that 74 percent of Americans disapprove of Republican actions in Congress, compared to 60 percent of those polled who take issue with Democratic conduct

Being a staunch dem, Bob, you will attribute the above poll results to the pubs being at fault...expected and understood...

Now, on to the truth of the matter...polls are iffy at best depending on who commissioned them, what questions were asked, what audience was polled, etc....I have no idea about this poll since nothing was posted except the result...

Given that, the largest single influence on polls is the media...it has been proven factually and beyond any possible doubt that the media is distinctly on the left side of the aisle...it has been this way for over 60 years, they just never admitted it until
recently...that discussion is over and done with...

The media has Obama/Reid's back on every issue and everyone knows this...the phrase "blatantly obvious" comes to mind...to suggest the dems have clean hands in this "shut down" is fiction....the media is dead quiet on the dems involvement in this mess...

Maybe the saddest part of this whole thing is the manner in which Obama decided to use it...to make political hay he has shut down all manner of operations that did not need to be closed...one could very easily say he targeted
closings for maximum reaction against the pubs...

Regardless of which party we prefer, who could possibly condone our president playing politics with the citizens...he and the dems may not like the pubs displeasure with the ACA but that should not be a license to hurt the citizens just so he can blame the pubs...

At home, the political rhetoric was unchanged — and generally uncompromising — while a new poll suggested Republicans are paying a heavier price than Democrats for the deadlock.

President Barack Obama said the House should vote immediately on ending the partial closure of the federal establishment. He accused House Speaker John Boehner of refusing to permit the necessary legislation to come to the floor because he “doesn’t apparently want to see the ... shutdown end at the moment, unless he’s able to extract concessions that don’t have anything to do with the budget.”

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Originally posted by Bob H:
At home, the political rhetoric was unchanged — and generally uncompromising — while a new poll suggested Republicans are paying a heavier price than Democrats for the deadlock.

President Barack Obama said the House should vote immediately on ending the partial closure of the federal establishment. He accused House Speaker John Boehner of refusing to permit the necessary legislation to come to the floor because he “doesn’t apparently want to see the ... shutdown end at the moment, unless he’s able to extract concessions that don’t have anything to do with the budget.”

Good one!!!

Now the Demo's have a TV ad bad mouthing the Repub's about this shut down. With all of the "hype" I hope the repubs push back that much harder! I guess when you get desperate, you'll go to any extreme !!

We have learned the ultimate lesson about not reading legislation until after passing it with Obamacare...Everyone now knows what a nightmare this law is, even Obama, as evidenced by all the waivers he has given out.....

The problem is the president has gotten himself in a corner...he cannot negotiate without losing huge political capital for himself and his party...the pubs, much to his dismay, are refusing to roll over no matter how nasty he gets with these closings...Obama did not see this coming...

Someone has to make this man blink at some point...nothing he has done has helped the economy or job market...record numbers of folks on unemployment, for 99 weeks btw, record numbers on food stamps, welfare, disability, section 8 housing, Medicaid, etc...gasoline was $1.82 per gallon on the day he was inaugurated...what is it now?...his energy policy is a shambles spending billions on alternate energy scams the taxpayers get the bill for...do I even need to mention his record on foreign affairs?...

Maybe this is the time to call the presidents bluff...I don't like it but someone must stop this anarchistic method of governing...winning an election is one thing...poor governing is quite another...if the shoe were on the other foot I would hope the dems would do the same thing the pubs are doing...putting country before party may hurt for a time but it is the only way to go...

I agree completely fuzzy dice! I heard the president claim yesterday that he has successfully cut the deficit in half. He must do a different kind of math then I do.

I think O'reilly has said it the best so far, If people want to go ahead and sign up for Obamacare, let them but those that don't want to sign up give them a 1 year waiver. This would prove whether or not this healthcare law is a good thing or a bad thing.

Gpa

Why is it that the BIGGEST complainers of ObamaCare already have insurance and doesn't effect them?

Do you want to keep paying for the deadbeats who use the health care system and never pay a cent????

How bout all the illegals and low income ppl who have no insurance?

You like for paying their bills thru the higher cost of medical care?????

Zero doesn't get what illegal means.

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Mike, again the expert on STUDITY speaks out !!
ZEROOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo

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Originally posted by bcMOD3X3X:
I agree completely fuzzy dice! I heard the president claim yesterday that he has successfully cut the deficit in half. He must do a different kind of math then I do.

You mean to tell me that Fox News hasnt reported on the HUGE deficit reduction?
I wonder why?

Heres some fair and balanced reporting on this issue from the Christian Science Monitor,enjoy!

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/D...er-than-CBO-expected

I appreciate the article. I find the best way to stay informed is read multiple sources so that I can form my own opinion.

Here's a little sound bite from the president himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

All of the entitlement programs this president has put in place will continue to cause the national debt to grow.

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Originally posted by daytonchoppers:

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Originally posted by bcMOD3X3X:
I agree completely fuzzy dice! I heard the president claim yesterday that he has successfully cut the deficit in half. He must do a different kind of math then I do.

You mean to tell me that Fox News hasnt reported on the HUGE deficit reduction?
I wonder why?

Heres some fair and balanced reporting on this issue from the Christian Science Monitor,enjoy!

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/D...er-than-CBO-expected

Mike, again the expert on STUDITY speaks out !!

BJ Boob & Chopper boy are the same person

$17,000,000,000,000 in debt is NOT deficit reduction!!! And they want to raise the debt ceiling ?????????????? Liberal FUZZY math.
OBTW, cheif you'd better call Boehner and get the Grand Canyon opened up the weekend is approaching fast

The president has almost doubled the national deficit by himself and he is only 5 years in. The increase tax revenue is a result of the hardworking americans being taxed more so that it can be giving to those looking for handouts.

If you think a nanny state is the way to go just look at Detroit. That city has been democratic led now for 50 years and how has it benefited the city?

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Originally posted by Jerry Mock:
$17,000,000,000,000 in debt is NOT deficit reduction!!! And they want to raise the debt ceiling ?????????????? Liberal FUZZY math.
OBTW, cheif you'd better call Boehner and get the Grand Canyon opened up the weekend is approaching fast

Yep those bush years were harsh huh! thank God Obama has the deficit going down you might check his numbers again,he is WAY under what the cbo projected and ITS GONE DOWN HOW MANYS YEARS IN AROW NOW?

Jerry we might not see eye to eye on politics but i do hope you get to go this weekend.what an awesome place!

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Originally posted by bcMOD3X3X:
The president has almost doubled the national deficit by himself and he is only 5 years in. The increase tax revenue is a result of the hardworking americans being taxed more so that it can be giving to those looking for handouts.

If you think a nanny state is the way to go just look at Detroit. That city has been democratic led now for 50 years and how has it benefited the city?

Democrats huh?
I wonder why California is rockin right now?
Democratic Governer,a super majorty for Dems in the House and Senete and they are kickin butt!
Jerry Brown replaces the Rebublican and turns the state around?weird huh!

Im thinkin Michigan's trouble is cause its... Michigan!
OH! IO! GO BUCKS!

Socialist regime? What type of socialism are some of you referring to?