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Originally posted by Toad1:
Expected Ed's classy response

what part of the truth and the facts don't you like?

A 4.60s dragster and 35 spline axles spells failure and crash waiting to happen!

Again, dumbass!!

A new set of 40 spline MW axles are $742.00, the wheel bearings are $100.23 (no charge to install them including the retaining ring), a new set of 5/8-18 wheel studs will cost you an additional $129.00. The 40 spline spool was $319.

The left side carrier bearing adjuster was damaged so the new MW adjuster cost me $31.00.

I also replaced the ring gear bolts, (because the MW 40 spline spool ring gear flange was thicker than the original 35 spline spool flange) with a new ARP 250-3001 ring gear volt package, another $37.30.

The new left side caliper bracket cost me an additional $126. I also replaced all the hardware with new grade 8 hardware, (everywhere), probably $25.00. And three quarts of Redline Heavy Duty Gear lube added another $30.

Nothing I do is a “half Measure”, I buy the best parts available. This can be a dangerous sport with severe and expensive consequences when things go wrong, I’m not replacing anything with marginal pieces. In my case a set of 35 spline axles proved to be less than marginal.

Anyone interested in buying a perfectly fine 35 spline spool, with carrier bearings? $100, you pay for the ride.

Bob

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Don't need the spool but I wish you had a 4.10 gearset for a hundred bucks. LOL

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Originally posted by Toad1:
I bought the complete Strange aluminum rear-end housing for the dragster from Strange. We have changed center sections several times, gears and now are using a Yukon 35-spline spool. Same axles and bearings, probably fourth set of 5/8" wheel studs.
Not sure how many runs but the axles were new in 2001. Maybe 3000 runs?? Variety of engines but usually a 4.60-5.00s 1/8th mile dragster.
Just wondering what the useable life of the axles is (other than they are broken). Crack checked them and checked splines a few years ago, everything was good.

Thanks for your input, appreciate it.

Jok

Jok

I can give you real feed back on this deal since I did it.

Had those axles in my 4 link car since 04 through 16. The car ran between 7.7 to 7.2 from 04 to 09 and between 7.0 to 6.7 from 10 to 16. I kept a yearly eye on the axles from 10 to 16 due to the added power level and all was fine starting the 16 season. Over the winter I did my normal maintenance and found the axles were done, the short one was twisted a bunch and the longer one was twist also but much less,, so in one year they went from straight to ready to break.

What's that mean for you,, hard to tell,, but I'd say this, if your not planning on going any faster I'd put new ones in. Based on what I got out of them I don't see why they wouldn't give you a long service life again running 4.60's.

The 40 spline stuff is certainly better, just not convinced it's required in your deal based on my experience with them. Remember power is only one factor, weight is also another and dragsters are much lighter than door cars.

There is no denying stronger is better and safer and what once was acceptable is now marginal or at risk of failing.

Speeds and power levels have increased dramatically over the years.

I was already thinking about this very issue before Jok started the thread and was leaning to upgrading to MW 40 spline axles.

My car is a 2003 and nowhere near the power or speed some posters on here are at but I never know when or if I might step up the power level.

I have run 7.40's at just under 180 at 1975lbs. and that does not feel slow to my old butt when I do run it WOT.

I am wanting to go back to do some bracket racing again and hammer on my car once in a while possibly.

A bigger motor is always a possibility and I am to old to quit....


Mark Williams 40 spline stuff is going to be going in my car soon.....


It's just one more issue in a never ending string of why the costs to race are as high as they are and contributes to the demise of the sport as being an affordable activity for many folks.
That's just my opinion but it is true.
I can afford it and would rather not end up in the fence or on my head.
I don't bounce off stuff anywhere near as well as I used to......

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Originally posted by RPROGAS:
Nothing I do is a “half Measure”, I buy the best parts available. This can be a dangerous sport with severe and expensive consequences when things go wrong, I’m not replacing anything with marginal pieces. In my case a set of 35 spline axles proved to be less than marginal.

Dead on with a fucing zero! Bravo Bob

40 spline axles are the standard in professional built drag cars for along time and Mark Williams the best money can buy.

RPROGAS please check your PM's.

I have a six piece set of 4.10’s Vern, still interested? Since it’s for you, I can offer you a “one time” 10% discount!

Bob

35 spline,40 spline,or whatever.

I would never run a part such as an axle for a nearly 20 year period without replacing.But that is maybe just me.

Prior to them breaking I had checked the axles numerous times, they always looked great, zero twisting. Most of this cars life I ran a small 468 or a 540. When I built the 582 it was a different story.

Bob

Jok, there is no way I would let these guys with money to burn convince me that what I've been doing for 17 years,all of a sudden won't work or is dangerous. Replace them with new and race on...

again, bracket racing is full of broke dycks and dumb asses.^^^

“Racers with money to burn” Tim? I’ll take that as a direct comment about me. Well here’s my answer. I pay my bills, live and infrequently race on a single hard earned monthly Social Security Check. Do not for any reason suggest you know me, how I live, or better still what inexhaustible funds I have to go racing. I was offended by that comment, let me rephrase that, deeply offended!

The ONLY thing I was commenting about was that a 35 spline axle would not live in my application....period, paragraph. That recommendation came directly from Jason Schade at Mark Williams, my guess is that he knows a hell of a lot more than you.

I am not interested in continuing a debate on this subject, take that arguement up with the folks at Mark Williams. FYI....I spent most of my entire 2018 Racing budget to fix the car only because it was the right thing to do, not because I am rolling in money.

Bob

again, Bravo Bob

FWIW I have 35 spline axles in my Undercover car and have since day one. Although my slow 2090lb dragster only runs 6.35@215 it has yet to break an axle. They get pulled and inspected every season. Would 40 spline be better,of course they would. Are they truly needed? Not sure how all these 7.50 dragsters at 1900lbs are breaking them. I would say if they mag fine and are not twisted i wouldn't be afraid to run them.

Bob,first let me apologize if I offended you. I don't know what made you think I was directing anything at you. I don't know you, never pretended too. That's was not directed at anyone in particular. Again sorry if I offended you.

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I was offended by that comment, let me rephrase that, deeply offended!

You must be the worlds oldest millennial on SS! Who cares is you're offended? Even less if you're deeply offended...... gasp! You need to shut off you computer and get to your safe space stat. Grow up!

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Originally posted by T/D6591:
FWIW I have 35 spline axles in my Undercover car and have since day one. Although my slow 2090lb dragster only runs 6.35@215 it has yet to break an axle.

No better example...bracket racing is full of broke dycks and dumb asses.^^^

^^^ and at least 1 self proclaimed no it all Jack off.

I know what I know which is far more than you a s s hole.