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At what point did your car start spinning the wheel inside the tire?

What weight and ET/HP combination?
 
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No bracket racer NEEDS bead locks nor are they required per the NHRA 2022 Rulebook and we’ve been 7.15 @ 185 without rim screws no mind bead locks.
 
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No bracket racer NEEDS bead locks nor are they required per the NHRA 2022 Rulebook and we’ve been 7.15 @ 185 without rim screws no mind bead locks.


I agree with that for a dragster. What are your thoughts on the same speed in a door car? Would having to get the weight moving make a difference? Say 2650 LBS tube chassis car.
 
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At what point did your car start spinning the wheel inside the tire?

What weight and ET/HP combination?


You need bead locks when you run a tire that requires them or when the rules say you do. Other than that it's your choice to run them when not required. Or you can listen to everyone's opinion to tell you when you need them!
 
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Bubba's = beadlocks. Otherwise it's a judgement thing IMO.


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What are your thoughts on the same speed in a door car? Would having to get the weight moving make a difference? Say 2650 LBS tube chassis car.

Nothing to do with weight and the NHRA already answered that back in the 2004 Rulebook IIRC, specifically in the Pro Stock section. I believe 200MPH was/is the trigger.

That said, I've moved 3880 lbs 60 feet in 1.28 seconds on 10" tires and 3144 lbs. 60 feet in 1.17 seconds on 14" tires without beadlocks or rim screws.
 
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As soon as at least 1/2 of your racing buddies purchase them then it is recommended you do as well or you risk not fitting in.


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I'm on the train of not needing them unless rules state otherwise.. But at the same time, I like having them because it makes changing your own tires a breeze, plus you can buy a cheap bubble balancer and call it a day there. And in all honesty, no matter the speed, beadlocks do provide a bit a safety even in a 100 mph 6 second bracket car, typically beadlocks don't fail


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As soon as at least 1/2 of your racing buddies purchase them then it is recommended you do as well or you risk not fitting in.

This ^^^
 
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I have DBL purely for the convenience of changing tires and balancing myself not having to use an installer. The local Tires Plus recycles the old slicks for $3 each.

The tire sidewall was noticeably stiffer when driving in the pits first time after install and I use stiff wall tires on a door car.
 
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The tire sidewall was NOT noticeably stiffer when driving in the pits


"But I imagined it was" LOL

Get ready for a shytstorm.....LOL
 
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What's with whole "balance yourself" reasoning? I realize beadlocks make changing tires easier, but I have been mounting my own tires by hand AND bubble balancing them without beadlocks for years...


Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com
 
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Nothing easier about changing tires with bead locks, especially with Deltas
 
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Changing tires is so easy it's silly on std rims

The only hard part iof breaking the bead and using your trailers power jack makes that simple

Jack trailer up and put jackstands under frame

Go high enough to get tire under jack bottom plate

Power down at bead and push tire off rim in a couple spots....Usually easy to get loose

Tire comes off with a big screwdriver or by hand

Goes on rim just as easy

Blow up with some starting fluid if needed.....

Once you learn how to do it easy. Easier with 2 people

Balance it on a bubble or a spin balancer

I sold all my stuff so I will not be doing it again anytime soon though....

Paul Schulz gets credit for the trailer jack technique.....

My tires never moved without screws......16" Weld rims with Goodyears or Hoosiers

I added screws but but there was really no reason to....

Beadlocks came about as Ed said...

Pro Stock going over 200 and they were worried the tires could de-bead from centrifugal force distorting the tire

Narrow tread tires on wide rims.....only reason to have beadlocks
 
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Rich, sorry to hear you’ve hung up your helmet.
 
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Rich, sorry to hear you’ve hung up your helmet.


It was inevitable....To many negatives.
I could still do it for sure may days but no way I felt I was up for the grind...
It's very painful to put it mildly....
I Put stuff for sale and it went ballistic in hours....Priced it reasonable for what it all was.

I might get behind the wheel of something else down the road......slower door car maybe....

My health is fine and my recovery has been nothing short of amazing considering where I was a few months ago.....

Time waits for no one...

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Well good to hear you have recovered and feeling better.
 
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What's with whole "balance yourself" reasoning? I realize beadlocks make changing tires easier, but I have been mounting my own tires by hand AND bubble balancing them without beadlocks for years...


I’ve been racing the same door car a relatively short period of time (2007 start) and at age 70 I work smarter and set myself up for success in what needs to be done on it. My all aluminum enclosed trailer has a hand crank tong lift that easily removes the trailer from hitch, but would be useless in trying to break beads even with an electric lift. I don’t need or have a 12v battery in my trailer. My winch is 120 vac. I purchased a balancer just prior to having the DBL installed in 2019 by N&P. Prior to that a tire installer did the spin balance.
 
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i am going to be honest here.

i say beadlocks because they are cool. i am putting bealocks on my new ride whether i need them or not because i think they are cool.

ep-bought mine used cheaper than new regular wheels.
 
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How about bead locks on the front !
Be a trend setter !

Tell everyone your car handles better especially when you weigh anchor and have front brakes
 
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