Back about 20 years ago. I had a alternator/generator. I had a hub that I think was rubber and ran directly on the harmonic balancer. No belts I would call it a direct drive. Anyone remember these and who made them?? Thanks.

I remember those, but the name escapes me.

It'll come to me when I least expect it.
Seems like it was big with the circle track crowd.

I bought a used one from Edmond Richardson back in early 2000's Ran it on a Camaro. Sold car with it on it. Going back bracket racing and would like to have another one.

Was it Shogun?

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Was it Shogun?

Ding ding!!! That's the one I was trying to think of.
Apparently out of business now.

I think at one time Jones offered a water pump alternator rig, but I don't see it in their current catalog.

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Sounds like the Shogun Lectri-Charge.

It was called a "LECTRI-CHARGE ALTERNATOR" it was an "alternator" off an Onan generator, put out 15-20 amps. IMHO there are much better choices.
I think I recall that shogun industries burned down about 12-15 years ago.

Joe

PS lenny, didn't see your post

Thank you. Been trying to think of that name for days. Could not think of it.

Its actually a dynamo, no alternating current like an alternator. A dynomo makes direct current, generally low amps but not as many internal parts and cheaper to make. Used on many small tractors, like Kubota

I had a couple of those. They did use a belt though. Mine were alternating current but you had to have a separate rectifier to run the current through to make it DC.

They also made a remote water pump that was a repurposed bilge pump from a boat, you had to replace the impeller regularly and it made more noise than the engine itself!

I was trying to say away from belt. I have a Ron's toilet bowl and figured another belt would be one more to throw off.

they were good to stabilize voltage during a pass not to keep amps up for battery recharging. used one for years without a issue.

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I was trying to say away from belt. I have a Ron's toilet bowl and figured another belt would be one more to throw off.

I've been using the same Ron's belt for the entire 22 years I've owned my system. I don't even have a spare.

Never a problem with alternator or vac pump belts either.

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Originally posted by Ghost:
I was trying to say away from belt. I have a Ron's toilet bowl and figured another belt would be one more to throw off.

I've been using the same Ron's belt for the entire 22 years I've owned my system. I don't even have a spare.

Never a problem with alternator or vac pump belts either.

This 100%

Keep the belt short and the bracket rigid and you'll have no problems.

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Originally posted by Ghost:
I was trying to say away from belt. I have a Ron's toilet bowl and figured another belt would be one more to throw off.

I run a Terminator for 20+ years - fuel pump has a gilmer belt and low-mount alternator and head mounted vacuum pump each have their own V-belt. This is a pretty common setup and if your pullies are aligned and you don't over-tighten your fuel pump belt then you shouldn't have any issues.

And for the love of god, it's a Ron's Flying Toilet or a Toilet... not a "toilet bowl"! Sorry, that irks me!

I actually still have and use my Shogun "Letri-Charge" on my car. As said before, it is a re-purposed dynamo from farm equipment. I have the same unit on my Kubota lawn tractor. It does produce AC voltage and you must use a separate external rectifier to convert it to DC voltage.

I tried using it without a belt to begin with, but I kept burning the rubber belt that was glued around the dynamo bell housing. This is what would ride against the harmonic damper to spin the dynamo. It doesn't matter which direction the dynamo turned. I ended up sending it back to Shogun and they put a new rubber belt around the bell (or just replaced the whole thing) without charging me anything other than shipping.

When I got it back, I just re-positioned the dynamo mount and used a short V-belt. It doesn't charge the battery like a regular alternator, it simply keeps the voltage level up during the run. I still charge my battery between rounds when racing.

And yes, the reason I bought it was because I didn't and still don't have space to install a regular or even "mini" alternator on my car.

Check with BTE. They may still make their knock-off version of the Shogun alternator. Mine BTE version still works as intended.

The Shogun is from Kubota engines commonly found on Miller and Lincoln diesel engine driven machines and also can be found on various diesel generators

It does produce AC voltage and does have to have an external bridge rectifier to change the AC to Dc.....

It's design is a bit different than your typical alternator with magnets rotating around the core....and the exact same design is used on small engines.......Magnets glued to the flywheel rotate around a stator mounted fixed on the engine

I fixed many of those on Onan P-x engines as the magnets would come apart and destroy the stator...

The Shogun unit likes to seize up when the bearing goes bad.....and yes they only are good for 10-20 amps at most....