Bracket Talk
3183 or 3191

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February 15, 2019, 08:38 PM
Bigdrive88
3183 or 3191
I currently run the M/T 3183 on my dragster. X8 compound. I see alot of people around me who run the 3191 little bubba. Same compound X8. Everyone seems to rave about the bubba. Since these use the same compound aside from the different rollout. What makes the little bubba so popular & why do people think its better than the 3183. I am also just looking for good info. I am due for a set of tires & I was considering the bubba's.
February 15, 2019, 08:59 PM
rusty
Stop Stop Stophere we go again lol


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February 15, 2019, 09:17 PM
Big Steve
With a skinny tire you will have more room in your trailer....bet you havent heard that one but its true lol

You will need beadlock wheels if you didnt already know or have them
February 15, 2019, 09:50 PM
Bigdrive88
LOL. I tried to search. Not looking to start any tire war debate. Just asking about these 2 tires specifically



quote:
Originally posted by rusty:
Stop Stop Stophere we go again lol

February 15, 2019, 09:51 PM
Bigdrive88
I have beadlocks and believe or not the trailer thing did cross my mind



quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
With a skinny tire you will have more room in your trailer....bet you havent heard that one but its true lol

You will need beadlock wheels if you didnt already know or have them

February 16, 2019, 06:36 AM
racerdude2054
We have ran the 3183 with much success on many cars but we now prefer the 3191. You must run it with bead locks. The width of the tire comparative of the rim is what helps the most in my opinion (guess). It keeps the tire extremely even and does not give it as much ability to try to walk over itself. A similar idea/concept as the 10.5” tires.

One draw back is that adding the height of the tire could slow your car down in the 1st 60 feet depending on the speed you are running and gear ratio.

A few pluses is that its easier to load and unload the car because of the change in ride height. It is nicer riding around the pits due to the increased ride height because you dont have to worry about scrubbing the chassis as much.

Both tires are very good tires. Also, you will need a little more air pressure in the 3191, probably add 1 pound from wherever you are on the 3183.
February 16, 2019, 07:08 PM
329L
I ran them on a 4.60 car, and they ran about the same as the 3183, but put more wheel speed in the car. Depending on your setup, you MAY need to put more bite in them. I would recommend starting at 6 psi and go up before you go down.


Jeremiah Hall
February 17, 2019, 10:11 AM
183N
What are you finding for finish line rpm difference? I assume they don’t grow as much as the 3183 but there’s a little more rollout to start with...
February 18, 2019, 08:55 PM
Rymo
Not to hijack but what psi do u run on the 3183’s? Asking for a friend


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February 18, 2019, 09:05 PM
27Keith
3183s at 5.6 lb


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February 21, 2019, 07:06 AM
NC3x58
I haven't tried the 3183 on my car yet, will hopefully get to do so this coming season. But, last season I swapped out my 15" 3084S tires on my dragster and went to the 3191 on beadlocks and the car didn't lose any ET and it was so much more consistent and smooth.. Towards the end of the year, we put the same tires on my dad's car that had non-beadlock and Hoosier 33.5/17/16 C06 tires, and again it was so much more smooth and consistent. We will be upgrading that car to beadlocks and the 3191 soon enough, but like I said hopefully get to try a set of 3183 on both cars, but will likely stay with 3191


Nick Craig

1971 Camaro Split Bumper
376ci LS3
February 21, 2019, 03:49 PM
adv ET 266
I don’t have 1st hand experience with the little bubba, but had heard they didn’t last as long as the 3183. Sidewall??
I could easily get 200-300 repeatable runs on my 3183’s and ran 3 sets.
For a bracket racer, that was important to me.



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February 21, 2019, 04:00 PM
NC3x58
I put easily 150-160 runs on my set of 3191's last season, and I got them off of a buddy of mine who had 40-50 runs roughly the year prior.. They were still working great when I was at the last race of the season.. I haven't fully decided to see if they'd last much more or not this season but with a bigger money race coming up about a month after the start of the season, I don't wanna chance them giving out at 250+/- runs


Nick Craig

1971 Camaro Split Bumper
376ci LS3
February 21, 2019, 08:48 PM
Big Steve
When I ran the 3190 I put over 200 passes on them and they worked just as good as when they were new. The car worked exactly same after I put new ones on as it did with the old set
February 21, 2019, 10:31 PM
racerdude2054
quote:
Originally posted by adv ET 266:
I don’t have 1st hand experience with the little bubba, but had heard they didn’t last as long as the 3183. Sidewall??
I could easily get 200-300 repeatable runs on my 3183’s and ran 3 sets.
For a bracket racer, that was important to me.


no noticeable difference between the 3183 and 3191 on longevity in our experience
February 21, 2019, 10:32 PM
racerdude2054
quote:
Originally posted by Rymo:
Not to hijack but what psi do u run on the 3183’s? Asking for a friend


5.3ish on 3183 for our combinations
February 24, 2019, 10:08 AM
Greg3728
I have 200 runs on my 3190's right now going 4.40-4.50 and they still work as good as the day I put them on. Buddy of mine just sold his car with the same tires running the same et and over 200 runs and his also worked just fine when he sold the car. I'm going to put a new set on just to start the year but would not hesitate to run them again if I needed to.
February 26, 2019, 09:36 AM
TORQIN
3190 is new technology, 3183...old school. Both work well, 3190 is what is more commonly used now for a reason.

3190 will perform better in bad conditions over 3183...3195 or 3196 work even better in crap conditions.

JMO
February 26, 2019, 01:29 PM
NC3x58
quote:
Originally posted by TORQIN:
3190 is new technology, 3183...old school. Both work well, 3190 is what is more commonly used now for a reason.

3190 will perform better in bad conditions over 3183...3195 or 3196 work even better in crap conditions.

JMO


Do people in the southern states choose the 3190 over the 3191 (X5 over X8 compound) because the X5 is harder and handles the heat better? Around Ohio, the 3191 seems way more common


Nick Craig

1971 Camaro Split Bumper
376ci LS3
February 26, 2019, 03:24 PM
TORQIN
Nick, yes I agree with this... but have used both 3190 and 3191 with a degree of sucess in the heat...