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Shocking info on the G159

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January 30, 2018, 07:30 AM
TD3550
Shocking info on the G159
Found this. A must read. Check your tires.

https://jalopnik.com/how-goody...n-his-1822200424/amp
January 30, 2018, 08:02 AM
1320racer
must be true, I read it on the internet.
January 30, 2018, 08:16 AM
1355PRO
http://www.safetyresearch.net/...y-dragged-public-eye

https://www.carcomplaints.com/...-investigation.shtml

https://www.autosafety.org/goo...-g159-tire-failures/

https://www.usatoday.com/story...-failures/997330001/


https://attorneypages.com/hot/...ear-tire-defects.htm

http://www.rubbernews.com/arti...odyear-tire-failures

https://www.lawyersandsettleme...ts/unsafe-tires.html

https://kehoelawfirm.com/news/...159-motor-home-tires


Eric Macchiaroli
S/R1355 80 Arrow

January 30, 2018, 08:43 AM
1320racer
more internet from sources no one has ever heard of.

Meanwhile, I have numerous friends that have this tire on their trailer for years, one is still running the original tires from 1998.

Until I see a report issued directly from The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, I'm calling fake news and no, I don't run this tire.
January 30, 2018, 09:20 AM
TORQIN
If you choose to run a 20 year old tire on your trailer, let us know before you leave as I will stay off the road till your done.

Just saying...not a good idea!
January 30, 2018, 09:23 AM
329L
I am wondering why a tire company got sued, when it said in the article that the OP shared, that the tire was designed for a slower moving vehicles. Would that not fall back on the companies that built the units?


Jeremiah Hall
January 30, 2018, 09:28 AM
1355PRO
quote:
Originally posted by TORQIN:
If you choose to run a 20 year old tire on your trailer, let us know before you leave as I will stay off the road till your done.

Just saying...not a good idea!


I'm a Porsche parts mgr. I drill holes in tires over six years old. We won't sell them. Depending on how they are stored they may be perfectly fine.....but we won't take the chance. Most trailers sit outside. You do the math.


Eric Macchiaroli
S/R1355 80 Arrow

January 30, 2018, 03:34 PM
BD104X
[/QUOTE]

I'm a Porsche parts mgr. I drill holes in tires over six years old. We won't sell them. Depending on how they are stored they may be perfectly fine.....but we won't take the chance. Most trailers sit outside. You do the math.[/QUOTE]

Goodyear tires are so bad, I wouldn't let a kid use one to swing from a tree!
On an unrelated note Eric... I'm the Parts Manager at Porsche Manhattan.


Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com
January 30, 2018, 03:41 PM
1355PRO
quote:
Originally posted by BD104X:


I'm a Porsche parts mgr. I drill holes in tires over six years old. We won't sell them. Depending on how they are stored they may be perfectly fine.....but we won't take the chance. Most trailers sit outside. You do the math.[/QUOTE]

Goodyear tires are so bad, I wouldn't let a kid use one to swing from a tree!
On an unrelated note Eric... I'm the Parts Manager at Porsche Manhattan.[/QUOTE]


I agree...Small world huh lol


Eric Macchiaroli
S/R1355 80 Arrow

January 30, 2018, 03:43 PM
1355PRO
Wow and you joined DRR the day after I did Shake head


Eric Macchiaroli
S/R1355 80 Arrow

January 30, 2018, 03:49 PM
BD104X
quote:
Originally posted by 1355PRO:
Wow and you joined DRR the day after I did Shake head


Which is.... HOLY CRAP, 18 years ago! If you ever need anything work-related, give me a shout.


Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com
January 30, 2018, 04:03 PM
imakehp
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration just opened an investigation this month. They had been unaware of any issues with the tire until a judge ordered files unsealed revealing the defects and resulting crashes. The files had been sealed by court order as a result of a plea bargain between plaintiffs and Goodyear.
So, NHTSA is involved and presumably will be releasing their findings in the future.

If it walks like a duck, and quakes like a duck, I'm calling it a duck..
Others, like that claim running 20yr old tires on their trailer is acceptable, may need even more proof.


.
Dave



F J B

January 30, 2018, 05:23 PM
sammy christian
there will be more to the story.
Speed limiters during that time period were to be set to the max rated speed for the tires, manufacturer likely did not or computer was reprogrammed.
Most RV incidents are the direct result of operator error/lack of skill. Elderly operators with usually nothing more than a class D license have no business behind the wheel of a 35,000+# truck. period. Unless they are retired truckers.


6.41@221 (so far)
4.11@178
off the shelf/built it myself
January 30, 2018, 05:26 PM
1320racer
Sammy Christian...knows!
January 30, 2018, 06:54 PM
imakehp
quote:
Originally posted by sammy christian:
there will be more to the story.
Speed limiters during that time period were to be set to the max rated speed for the tires, manufacturer likely did not or computer was reprogrammed.
Most RV incidents are the direct result of operator error/lack of skill. Elderly operators with usually nothing more than a class D license have no business behind the wheel of a 35,000+# truck. period. Unless they are retired truckers.



If any of that was true it's doubtful Goodyear would demand to have the records/facts of these settlements sealed.


.
Dave



F J B

January 31, 2018, 06:02 AM
pentastarrail
I think there will be A LOT more to this story once it's all said and done, similar to Ford and Firestone.

As Sammy said, when was the last time you saw a 75 year old man in a 45 foot coach towing a Jeep Grand Cherokee stopped at a fuel stop checking his tires, that would be almost NEVER.

When I replaced my GY tires on my 2005 coach in 2009 (dry rotted BAD) I went to the local Goodyear dealer (VERY large regional depot). The tires on my 2005 coach (that I bought BRAND NEW in 2005) were made in 2000 according to the date stamp on the tire. The GM at the tire depot showed me the code letter/number in his book.
He said, that the coach manufactures have bidding for the allotment of tires and sizes they want to purchase. So what the tire manufactures do is bid low to get rid of all there new/old tires, they collect them ALL and ship them to the coach chassis builders.
So you can have a brand new coach with 5 year old tires on it as I did.

AS I said, this will get pretty deep with the BLAME going to EVERYONE, the owner, the coach manufacturer, the tire company, etc just like the Firestone/Ford debacle.
Red Face


Man was not built to fly ... That's why he built HEMI's

Frank Zeffiro
ALIAS -- BIG KAHUNA
January 31, 2018, 06:12 AM
67TSCHEVY2
I wonder how many racers front tires are several years old ....lol....
February 01, 2018, 07:48 AM
BD104X
Firestone got a bad rap because of Fords terrible 'twin I-beam' suspensions. Goodyear tires are genuine junk.


Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com
February 01, 2018, 08:03 AM
1320racer
Everyone has an opinion and it's usually based on their purchase and/or brand loyalty.

That said, I've run probably every brand of american made tires over my 40 years driving and believe Michelin are the best tires regardless of application.

As to trailer tires, I've run Carlisle, Goodyear and Maxxis over the past 18 years and on four different trailers(one a boat trailer) and I've never had a Goodyear blow out or delaminate as did I did with Carlisle more than once. My new Intech trailer runs on the tire I spec'd...Goodyear Endurance.
February 01, 2018, 09:42 AM
Wooley
Firestone got a bad reputation because of junk tires! Remember the firestone 500? That tire was so bad I took new never been on the road tires out of trunks of cars that had separated while sitting in the trunk. This was back when cars came with full size spares. That is the reason why to this day I will not own any firestone tires.