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Call House of Payne, he'll tell you what you will need and he'll be honest with you.
 
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Everyone including me likes to think they have the best approach.

So a guy I know tells me a couple weeks ago he runs a 8 lb battery and a House of Pain starter for two years, and his car starts better or as good as anyone's.

So when I hear this I consider the source. The source is good, dude never exaggerates, never automatically assumes his approach is best. Which to me means it's unbiased, unemotional info.

I don't know what flexplate he runs. It's a Reher Morrison engine, so whatever they run I'm sure.

 
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Two batteries and a Tilton might have been the hot ticket 25 years ago, but it ain't today.

I think if you're stuck on that it's emotional.

Emotional ain't rational.
 
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My Reher-Morrison engine did not come with a flexplate.
 
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I have a Powermaster 9400 series starter. I works very good in my RED (632 CID) with a small battery (12v) in the nose of the car. Many starting issues are not the starter, but everyone blames it. Insufficient grounds, battery cables to small, bad connections etc. all contribute to low cranking starter voltage! The band aid fix is a 16v system. The other issue that I have seen are bad starters, even new ones. They are all mass produced! Mark Payne is no doubt one of the Kings of producing great starters. He also fixed a bad starter (relatively new one at that) a number of years back for me!
 
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Looks like im in the minority, but i will stick with Tilton. I do run 16 volt, and even with that being said, the tilton doesnt turn as fast as MANY other brands, but i have YET to have a no start situation.


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My Reher-Morrison engine did not come with a flexplate.


If I knew I'd say, my guess would be 10 pitch Mezeire flexplate.
 
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Meziere TS400


Meziere Tech.
Make sure your water pump is on whenever you check your coolant level.
 
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Whats the Difference in the Powermaster starters and the Powermaster XS Starters?
 
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Good and bad in anything you by. I know a lot of people that run tilton with good luck. My experience wasn’t so good. TS400 for 5 years on my 632 without issue and after i changed pans i put the TS400 on my 440 and its been great.
 
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and there are those that can break an anvil
 
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I tried the Powermaster 9400 and just didn't have any luck with it years ago. The past 10+ years I've been using the 9500 with good success. Really works well on 16 volts and the solenoid arrangement works well for space as well as wiring with how the studs are placed.

Mark Payne fixed an alternator for me a few years ago. Great customer service so if I wasn't using the 9500 I'd likely use one of his starters.

I still havent switched to the 139 tooth flexplate as my current billet Meziere 168 is still holding up like a champ so I see no reason to change at this point.
 
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So im in need of a starter by Friday. I was trying to get in touch with HOP but they have odd hours and haven't responded to my email. My motor is 16:1 and I am leaning towards the Powermaster 9540 that will work with my 168 flexplate and 16v system.

If anyone here is running that starter on a similar set up how do you like it?
 
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HOP Mark is out of the country on VAC if I remember correctly.

I use Meziere, never an issue. Customer Service is immaculate. Legit company. No experience with powermaster.

SL...
 
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some here including TORQIN have had issues with meziere starters and HOP has repaired many.
 
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Payne is back in town. He was out of country for work. He makes a big dog 168 that is like his 139 tooth stuff. He can sell you a flex plate as well if you need one.

Hit the digits
540-471-0471

ep-he does fix alot of mezieres
 
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So im in need of a starter by Friday. I was trying to get in touch with HOP but they have odd hours and haven't responded to my email. My motor is 16:1 and I am leaning towards the Powermaster 9540 that will work with my 168 flexplate and 16v system.

If anyone here is running that starter on a similar set up how do you like it?


168 tooth is a 9500

153 is a 9540

I've got two 9540's bad, I think it's user error though, on daily street driven pump gas muscle cars, with 100's of starts on em (and a few kickbacks).
 
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Im not a fan of the Denso Style so ill probably go with the 9400 since it has good reviews and is in stock.
 
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Im not a fan of the Denso Style so ill probably go with the 9400 since it has good reviews and is in stock.


I'm not positive I am either, we're gonna buy duplicate spare 9540's and change our approach to starting these cars, see if we can get these starters to be more permanent.

Repair the two damaged we have as spares.
 
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i,ve ran hop 16v and meziere 132 a long time with great results. even ran a braille 16v lithium and i was less than happy with it.
 
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