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Dang B king leaving me hanging. Guess hes racing and no time.LOh well back to marketgs to try and get enough for new parts, LOL

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No hanging, these threads tend to get sidetracked one way or another. It morphed into an alternator or no alternator & some other subjects.

I've been bracket racing for 35+ years & know what works for me. I also see the trends that work for most others. Run an alternator or not, many different ways to bracket race; the majority use an alternator.

I've been pretty successful bracket racing. There are certain core items that I pay attention to while at the track. I choose not to waste my energy, focus & concentration just to name a few; I don't make busy work!

Proof is in the end results!

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Just joking you had replied right after post on few.

See if not for busy work I would go out of mind overthinking other shyt. Sitting around drives me up the wall,Like putting hyper kid in time out would be comparison.

30+ ears of mostly pro cars and never a momement for sitting aound on race day and if did I was working on something probably why.

I rarely do anything becaue others do. Also not reason I do not do it

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quote:
Originally posted by B KING:
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
Most bracket racers around here spend more time sitting than working on car and that not me.If too much time I will be tearing something apart to work on even when not broken.

Here's my experience & it falls under spending more time sitting than working on the car; according to you.

I have raced many different vehicles for owner(s). I have two owner examples that come to mind that fall into wanting to tear something apart, tinker, tune & thought their race vehicle was a Top Fuel contender.

The 1st one was probably the deadliest race vehicle I've driven & I raced it for 3 years. The owner constantly wanted to mess with SHYT & I wouldn't let him. When we finally parted ways. He stated the car was the star of the show & not the driver. He put numerous different drivers in after me & he constantly messed with SHYT at the track. The car never won a race after I departed. The car struggled to make it out of the 1st round. It was finally sold!

The 2nd, vehicle was a 3-year-old build & was raced by the owner/others; it had never won a race. I set the vehicle up to win & that's what it did. The owner wanted too constantly mess with everything. He couldn't get it right before & now you want to screw up a winning combination. I departed ways after 3 years & the vehicle was sold.

This is me & probably most of the bracket racers. We are at the track to race, working on the race vehicle is done at home or the shop!

As for the best coil. Buy the appropriate coil for your system, most likely MSD. If you want the "Hottest" provide it with more volts & an alternator ensures that!

2BKING

Some every good information here and I to have fallen into that trap. I built my cars and for me race day is race day and working on cars is for at home. I do things my way and it was working. When I get to track I want to relax as much as possible and concentrate on weather and dialing my car and my driving. The last couple of years I have been helping others correct issues and I ended up driving different cars and different combinations most every race and honestly it was not working. Every time I change car or combination then all of my former weather data on that car is useless and start from scratch. This year I am driving my car and I will still help with others but not driving for them. Get a working combination and leave it then concentrate on weather, driving and winning.

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Sometime in the early 90s I fell into the cute, small, trick battery of the week rabbit hole.

I was fighting low voltage with no alternator. My dad happened by while I was being determined to make my foolish investment work.
He mentioned that If I can get it started it can run off of the alternator alone.
I think I knew that but never had a reason to prove it out but can't resist an experiment.

I installed a alternator and set the pulleys to see 3000 Alt rpm at idle. Started the engine with an off board conventional 12V battery.
Made 4 passes without issues.
I then put a real battery in it to compliment the alternator and quit screwing around.

Alternators are essentially electrical superchargers.

Having chattered on about that I still vote for the mag in an MFI alcohol combo or any alcohol app for that matter.

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Trick of the week is usually a new fresh problem. I have tried the lightweight small batteries and the 16 volt deal.

Now I prefer the standard 12 volt system with an alternator. My alternator is the small 55-70 amp mini but that is all the room I have for.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Koehler:
Sometime in the early 90s I fell into the cute, small, trick battery of the week rabbit hole.

I was fighting low voltage with no alternator. My dad happened by while I was being determined to make my foolish investment work.
He mentioned that If I can get it started it can run off of the alternator alone.
I think I knew that but never had a reason to prove it out but can't resist an experiment.

I installed a alternator and set the pulleys to see 3000 Alt rpm at idle. Started the engine with an off board conventional 12V battery.
Made 4 passes without issues.
I then put a real battery in it to compliment the alternator and quit screwing around.

Alternators are essentially electrical superchargers.

Having chattered on about that I still vote for the mag in an MFI alcohol combo or any alcohol app for that matter.

While probably main one to blame for thread turning to alternator or not to. I enjoy the debate,its gets other to ex[ress their thoughts. I am considering a electronic because eaier to find quick replacement. I thought about selling my mag stuff but just can not do it.
After all comments about alternator almost being mandatory with elctronic deal. I may just stick to my old tried and true and look around for more backup stuff. Funny thing I can get mag 44 easier than the mag 12 stuff. Just that is lot more than needed and even with connections its butt load of cash.

Figuring coil,box and dristributor(even machined one) and a alternator while using my crank trigger. The cost will cover new coil box and back up trigger. Hell that would be two full setup's. Throw in 250 for another set of wires and be good. Plus hard to teach old dogs new tricks. LOL

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B KING

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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Koehler:
Alternators are essentially electrical superchargers.

I like that analogy!

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3000 lbs.
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Timing always a *****. Had guy call today wiorth grid and tgwo coild althlough pobably not ideal at \about half price, Right after dumped bunch onto market and taxidermiost called to tell me all 3 deer heads ready about 1500). Never seems to fail.

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quote:
Originally posted by B KING:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Koehler:
Alternators are essentially electrical superchargers.

I like that analogy!

2BKING

But like superchargers they take a certain amount of HP to spin them, I proved that years ago when mine tossed the belt off and the car picked up nearly a tenth during a bracket race

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quote:
Originally posted by B KING:
I've been bracket racing for 35+ years & know what works for me. I also see the trends that work for most others. Run an alternator or not, many different ways to bracket race; the majority use an alternator.

I've been pretty successful bracket racing. There are certain core items that I pay attention to while at the track. I choose not to waste my energy, focus & concentration just to name a few; I don't make busy work!

Proof is in the end results!

quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
quote:
Originally posted by B KING:
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
Most bracket racers around here spend more time sitting than working on car and that not me.If too much time I will be tearing something apart to work on even when not broken.

Here's my experience & it falls under spending more time sitting than working on the car; according to you.

I have raced many different vehicles for owner(s). I have two owner examples that come to mind that fall into wanting to tear something apart, tinker, tune & thought their race vehicle was a Top Fuel contender.

The 1st one was probably the deadliest race vehicle I've driven & I raced it for 3 years. The owner constantly wanted to mess with SHYT & I wouldn't let him. When we finally parted ways. He stated the car was the star of the show & not the driver. He put numerous different drivers in after me & he constantly messed with SHYT at the track. The car never won a race after I departed. The car struggled to make it out of the 1st round. It was finally sold!

The 2nd, vehicle was a 3-year-old build & was raced by the owner/others; it had never won a race. I set the vehicle up to win & that's what it did. The owner wanted too constantly mess with everything. He couldn't get it right before & now you want to screw up a winning combination. I departed ways after 3 years & the vehicle was sold.

This is me & probably most of the bracket racers. We are at the track to race, working on the race vehicle is done at home or the shop!

As for the best coil. Buy the appropriate coil for your system, most likely MSD. If you want the "Hottest" provide it with more volts & an alternator ensures that!

2BKING

Some every good information here and I to have fallen into that trap. I built my cars and for me race day is race day and working on cars is for at home. I do things my way and it was working. When I get to track I want to relax as much as possible and concentrate on weather and dialing my car and my driving. The last couple of years I have been helping others correct issues and I ended up driving different cars and different combinations most every race and honestly it was not working. Every time I change car or combination then all of my former weather data on that car is useless and start from scratch. This year I am driving my car and I will still help with others but not driving for them. Get a working combination and leave it then concentrate on weather, driving and winning.

I tried my best to share a little quality hard earned information on bracket racing. This is based on many...many years of personal experience & observations/studying the best bracket racers in the country. If someone chooses or not to use the information it doesn't matter to me!

2BKING doesn't know all about bracket racing, but I'm always willing to continue to learn & adapt in my older years.

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3000 lbs.
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