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Originally posted by wideopen231:


I will let you and Ed keep the beating his wally between the two of you.

Weren't you instructed by top libtard 38 to put me on ignore?

I only got roped into this because Ed was beating you over the head with a wally, I didn't know who was its rightful owner, so I asked.

I can’t put Mike on ignore
Just when I’m ready to, he redeems himself with clever shyt and the entertainment is worth the brain damage from reading some of it.

As far as the aluminum rod topic

You might want to check with someone who actually runs aluminum rods in a bracket car and has more big checks than walls to hang them on. He rarely posts on here but probably reads this shyt and laughs. Frank Mark are you out there bro ?

Rich, Frank also runs high gear only. That said, Frank don’t race much anymore, mostly at the Numidia gambler races. he’s also the one guy in 1000 and Frank has suffered catastrophic engine damage due to broken aluminum rods. Matter of fact the most recent was 2019 IIRC.

Ed I’m sure Frank races less than he has in the past and for various reasons.

Has he ever broken an aluminum rod ? I don’t know but overall I think he’s had pretty good results for however long he’s run them.

Racers break steel rods too as you are very well aware of I am pretty sure.

Would I run aluminum rods! No, for all the reasons previously mentioned and at my age I definitely am not looking to add more work and costs to hit some races.

As an old engine builder I’d advise against using them for the vast majority of racers as you said. We agree 100% on that.

Some people just like to go down a different path for parts....

Aluminum rods were a must have in the old modified eliminator, high rpm, manual trans days.

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Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I can’t put Mike on ignore
Just when I’m ready to, he redeems himself with clever shyt and the entertainment is worth the brain damage from reading some of it.

As far as the aluminum rod topic

You might want to check with someone who actually runs aluminum rods in a bracket car and has more big checks than walls to hang them on. He rarely posts on here but probably reads this shyt and laughs. Frank Mark are you out there bro ?

I forgot about the ignore feature i might have to use this on Mike who thinks hes 13 again and wants to fist fight like a child.

Pretty F_cking sure 99% of bracket motor are built with STEEL RODS..... Humm i wonder why that it? And a Comp motor isn't even in the same universe compared to the normal Bracket motor... If Aluminum Rods where the go to every builder would have their motor with these rods as a standard fact is they don't for many reasons...

Most if not all PS and Comp(higher rpm) engines are using steel or titanium rods now, anyway.

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Originally posted by RacerVX54:

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Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I can’t put Mike on ignore
Just when I’m ready to, he redeems himself with clever shyt and the entertainment is worth the brain damage from reading some of it.

As far as the aluminum rod topic

You might want to check with someone who actually runs aluminum rods in a bracket car and has more big checks than walls to hang them on. He rarely posts on here but probably reads this shyt and laughs. Frank Mark are you out there bro ?

I forgot about the ignore feature i might have to use this on Mike who thinks hes 13 again and wants to fist fight like a child.

Your buddy 5 ft 6" tall 60 year old geezer Ed has called out more racers on the internet for fist fights at the track, than Charlie Zelonoff has Heavyweight boxers.

I wish you would put me on ignore if you're gonna portray yourself here as having gotten your education from CNN fake news. Lying and crying.

I never said anything about fist fighting. I said I wouldn't come within 50 miles of any drag strip Geezer Ed is participating, unless he'll agree to put on the gloves beneath the safe.

Ed thinks just because nobody says anything to him at the track, they're scared.

I think it's time we nip that in the bud. Nobody is scared Ed. It's you that's scared because once you put on the gloves, your lawyers won't work.

I used aluminum rods in a bracket engine for many years. In the Barracuda that was eventually more of a dedicated .90 car than a bracket car. But either way it was always an aluminum rod engine, started when we ran it in the heads up car shifting at 8500. But never changed it from having aluminum rods. Changed them out every 400ish passes and never had a failure. I have had a couple of steel rod failures in the dragster over the years. They sure can make a mess of things..

But it seems mentioning aluminum rods now is off topic as we are discussing MMA now, or is it IBF?

Thanks for the thoughtful input, Guys.

Let me ask 1 follow-up question on this topic.
I'd like to hear from any SG/SP door car guys out there, (or heck, even SC/Dragster drivers), running 1,000 HP 565-582-ish CI, conventional head BBC's with STEEL rods, that occasionally spray down track? (Not every lap as a routine ET improver, but only as a strategic tool, when dictated by the way a race unfolds)? Any bottom end issues, or have you had some good life out of your rods in particular? (I would guess there are thousands out there in this category, just wanting to show my pal it really does work, and that a 2-year freshen can actually mean just a set of rings, bearings, gaskets, etc).

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Originally posted by Al Alguire:
I used aluminum rods in a bracket engine for many years. In the Barracuda that was eventually more of a dedicated .90 car than a bracket car. But either way it was always an aluminum rod engine, started when we ran it in the heads up car shifting at 8500. But never changed it from having aluminum rods. Changed them out every 400ish passes and never had a failure. I have had a couple of steel rod failures in the dragster over the years. They sure can make a mess of things..

But it seems mentioning aluminum rods now is off topic as we are discussing MMA now, or is it IBF?

16 and 20 oz boxing gloves. Ed can have his pick, I'm no bully.

Not in the business of hurting anyone, it's about honesty.

We have enough fake to go around already.

Fake is extremely dangerous for our democracy.

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Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I can’t put Mike on ignore
Just when I’m ready to, he redeems himself with clever shyt and the entertainment is worth the brain damage from reading some of it.

As far as the aluminum rod topic

You might want to check with someone who actually runs aluminum rods in a bracket car and has more big checks than walls to hang them on. He rarely posts on here but probably reads this shyt and laughs. Frank Mark are you out there bro ?

I know you can do it!!!!!!! We can only take so much brain damage these days!

Guess it’s depends the power level/rpm. We’ve ran alum, 60 runs or less if you make North of 1300... ask me how I know..Steel Carrillo, 230 and counting, get checked, sized and rod bolts every year..

8500 rpm

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Originally posted by TOP38:

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Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I can’t put Mike on ignore
Just when I’m ready to, he redeems himself with clever shyt and the entertainment is worth the brain damage from reading some of it.

As far as the aluminum rod topic

You might want to check with someone who actually runs aluminum rods in a bracket car and has more big checks than walls to hang them on. He rarely posts on here but probably reads this shyt and laughs. Frank Mark are you out there bro ?

I know you can do it!!!!!!! We can only take so much brain damage these days!

Al, My brain can take it....

I grew up in the 1960's and lived thru the 1970's....and all that went with those 2 decades....

What's a few whacked out videos and memes gonna do....nuthin

When it gets real deep I get my waders on or go watch videos on Youtube...all kinds of entertainment there....

Work is dead right now.....To much computer time....

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Originally posted by SCDIV1:
Al, My brain can take it....

I grew up in the 1960's and lived thru the 1970's....and all that went with those 2 decades....

What's a few whacked out videos and memes gonna do....nuthin

When it gets real deep I get my waders on or go watch videos on Youtube...all kinds of entertainment there....

Work is dead right now.....To much computer time....

I grew up in those same two decades also,,, and like you said there's plenty of vid's on U tube, don't need any on this site also!

Just Do It,,, Like Nike! LOL

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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:
Guess it’s depends the power level/rpm. We’ve ran alum, 60 runs or less if you make North of 1300... ask me how I know..Steel Carrillo, 230 and counting, get checked, sized and rod bolts every year..

8500 rpm

HP level does make a difference but pressure feed motors are easier on rods with respect to the max tension developed since these motors don't have to suck the air and fuel in the cylinders so it's more than just HP! RPM, stroke and the weight of the piston also matters with respect to rod life.

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Originally posted by TOP38:

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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:
Guess it’s depends the power level/rpm. We’ve ran alum, 60 runs or less if you make North of 1300... ask me how I know..Steel Carrillo, 230 and counting, get checked, sized and rod bolts every year..
8500 rpm

HP level does make a difference but pressure feed motors are easier on rods with respect to the max tension developed since these motors don't have to suck the air and fuel in the cylinders so it's more than just HP! RPM, stroke and the weight of the piston also matters with respect to rod life.

Good points Al.
Barry I want to see/hear your car make a pass! Love the high-winders, Stk/SS, Comp, etc.

Ill be 66 in May and I really get some entertainment on here. 1320racer don't go no where. Mike Reitow don't go no where. The volley back and forth is some entertainment. Its like you know, woofing on each other. Both of you guys have experience and different views that work for each. The triple chrome bumper comment I have to admit could of used that one back in the day when we used to street race. Back to topic, Alumnium rods have their place. I am personaly not afraid to run them as I stated early in this topic post. As time went on I just didn't feel like I needed to freshen up an engine every year. So steel rods for me ever since. We are Bracket racing and the best bang for the buck is longevity.

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Originally posted by FootbrakeJim:

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Originally posted by TOP38:

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Originally posted by stk 758 BP!:
Guess it’s depends the power level/rpm. We’ve ran alum, 60 runs or less if you make North of 1300... ask me how I know..Steel Carrillo, 230 and counting, get checked, sized and rod bolts every year..
8500 rpm

HP level does make a difference but pressure feed motors are easier on rods with respect to the max tension developed since these motors don't have to suck the air and fuel in the cylinders so it's more than just HP! RPM, stroke and the weight of the piston also matters with respect to rod life.

Good points Al.
Barry I want to see/hear your car make a pass! Love the high-winders, Stk/SS, Comp, etc.

Exactly Top38!
Jim, we are done with comp, at least for now. We routinely spin the 636 and the 650 8400 The new 780 will see 8200 plus..
The 427 stocker see's just over 8000 on a fast pass. I love it and should really scream now with changes. In comp we were 10500 with the 354 B/ED.

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