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Anyone build their own wing for door car?

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January 17, 2022, 05:52 AM
Holytown
Anyone build their own wing for door car?
Thinking of building my own wing. Seems like basic fab work. Anyone have any tips, or better yet pictures of the build?
January 17, 2022, 07:47 AM
KWig
Yes, think it out, and make use of some poster boards, to simulate what you want. Painters tape to hold the posterboard, and mark it up how you want.
I used .060 for the main part, so it could be strutless, and .040 for the side panels.
What car are you planning to build a wing for ?
I cant post pics from the work computer, but I can email them to you.


You have to put in the effort, to get anything out of it.
January 17, 2022, 08:51 AM
Holytown
quote:
Originally posted by KWig:
Yes, think it out, and make use of some poster boards, to simulate what you want. Painters tape to hold the posterboard, and mark it up how you want.
I used .060 for the main part, so it could be strutless, and .040 for the side panels.
What car are you planning to build a wing for ?
I cant post pics from the work computer, but I can email them to you.


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January 17, 2022, 06:38 PM
AlkyIROC
Built one for my Camaro. Might not be as fancy or pretty as a store bought one but it does exactly what I wanted it to do. The only thing I would have done differently would be to make an adjustable wickerbill but that also requires a lot of testing to see what height works best.





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January 18, 2022, 11:26 AM
Steve from Pa
I've built 2 for my own cars over the years. I looked up a lot of images for wings and got some ideas, then used some of what I saw and what I wanted and built templates for the side panels and carb board deck pans. Take them all up trim a little more add a little more to get the look you want. Over all they are very easy to build with a little sheet metal experience and maybe a trip to a sheet metal shop to use their brake to bend the deck pan up. Around here the circle trackers use a single sided alum sheets you can but them pretty cheap, I use black sided last time and painted the side panels the body color and left the deck panel black.
The biggest mistake I see most doing are not adding a 1/4" wicker bill on the very back of the deck, and alot of people add too much angle of attach on the deck panel. Do a little research you find most dont need any angle really.


Most important, keep the shiny side up
January 18, 2022, 11:39 AM
rarmbruster0001
I have found that the backing board for pictures makes better templates than poster board because it is thicker. I found it while wandering around in Hobby Lobby with my wife. More expensive than poster board, but it does make better patterns.
January 18, 2022, 12:29 PM
1320racer
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown:
Thinking of building my own wing. Seems like basic fab work. Anyone have any tips, or better yet pictures of the build?

Isn’t your car raced 1/8th mile and a 6.0 piece at best? If so you don’t need a wing. My Firebird has been 5.50 and 8.72 and countless other cars run much quicker than 6.0 without a wing.
January 18, 2022, 03:58 PM
Top355x
Well your firebird does have a factory wing and is very aero and maybe he just likes the look
January 18, 2022, 04:25 PM
1320racer
It does not have a wing. Nothing to like about it, ugly as shyt.
January 18, 2022, 05:33 PM
Big Steve
Speaking of a wing that looks like shyt


January 18, 2022, 06:27 PM
1320racer
agreed as does many of the 405 last night but that entire car is a shyt box or at least it was when I saw it at the 2019 PRI show
January 18, 2022, 07:20 PM
TD3550
quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
Speaking of a wing that looks like shyt



Lets see. A wing for Monday, One for Tuesday ETC.
January 18, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jamey2632
That basic white ***** trans am on 1320s profile looks like shyt too but obviously he still sinks money into it. If I were you and had access to some basic sheet metal equipment, I’d just search a bunch of other cars wing designs and figure out what you want. Come up with a side profile, buy some wing struts off quartermax, and to crap with what anyone thinks because you built it and didn’t buy it with the rest of the joneses like ole Ed lmao. Do you need it that speed? Probably not. Does it look good and you made it? Hell yeah. And that’s all that matters


James Stringer
January 19, 2022, 04:27 AM
1320racer
another jealous nobody with junk that ain't got shyt nor done shyt worth talking about and jamesy boy it's a Firebird and a Best Engineered one at that! Spitting

that said, he DEFINITELY does not need it at that speed and it does not look good.
January 19, 2022, 06:33 AM
Holytown
I agree with people adding too much angle. I've noticed more people building them dead flat and just utilizing the wicker bill for all downforce.

Anyone know why wicker has more of an effect than angle, or how it works?
January 19, 2022, 06:50 AM
BD104X
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown:
I agree with people adding too much angle. I've noticed more people building them dead flat and just utilizing the wicker bill for all downforce.

Anyone know why wicker has more of an effect than angle, or how it works?


A wing on a door car isn't relying so much on downforce like a dragster, it's more about cleaning up the swirling air behind the car that makes the back end light. Look at a Pro-Stock car... wing is flat but long.


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January 19, 2022, 07:23 AM
Holytown
quote:
Originally posted by BD104X:
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown:
I agree with people adding too much angle. I've noticed more people building them dead flat and just utilizing the wicker bill for all downforce.

Anyone know why wicker has more of an effect than angle, or how it works?


A wing on a door car isn't relying so much on downforce like a dragster, it's more about cleaning up the swirling air behind the car that makes the back end light. Look at a Pro-Stock car... wing is flat but long.


Thanks,

I will take a look
January 19, 2022, 07:45 AM
Mike Nitzsche
quote:
Originally posted by BD104X:
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown:
I agree with people adding too much angle. I've noticed more people building them dead flat and just utilizing the wicker bill for all downforce.

Anyone know why wicker has more of an effect than angle, or how it works?


A wing on a door car isn't relying so much on downforce like a dragster, it's more about cleaning up the swirling air behind the car that makes the back end light. Look at a Pro-Stock car... wing is flat but long.


Yes, remember a wing is the ugly thing standing off the trunk of boosted promods and a spoiler is relatively flat with a wicker bill. Wings create downforce, spoilers take away lift. I agree that you probably don't need a wing or a spoiler. My Nova benefitted from a spoiler in the 8.40/160 range, however my roadster goes 8.60/157 and doesn't even wiggle, so I didn't see the need for one, especially running 1/8 most of the time.
January 19, 2022, 09:30 AM
1320racer
The only similarities a bracket door car and a pro mod/pro stock have in common are a steering wheel and 4 tires.

That said, if the OP likes and wants a wing on his car it doesn’t matter what anyone says here, he will/should do it. My statement was made because he may not know he doesn’t need it.
January 19, 2022, 09:34 AM
Mike Nitzsche
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
The only similarities a bracket door car and a pro mod/pro stock have in common are a steering wheel and 4 tires.


That might be going a bit far.....lol.