Bracket Talk
New build for 2023

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January 09, 2023, 06:50 PM
Fabman
New build for 2023
One thing I never got around to buying for the Malibu was a really good car cover. Now was the time. I contacted California Car Cover and they sent me a couple papers with drawings to take measurements of the non stock features of the car for them to custom make a car cover. They recommended the "Super Weave" material. Cover fits really nice especially considering all of the non stock body stuff like the 9" chin spoiler, front exit exhaust, 4" cowl hood, 15" rear wing and the parachute.










January 15, 2023, 05:19 PM
markemark
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Originally posted by Fabman:





No alternator....why?
January 15, 2023, 05:39 PM
Fabman
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
quote:
Originally posted by Fabman:





No alternator....why?


Couple reasons. I had a 105 amp alternator on the Malibu and it never charged well at all at idle and low driving speeds. Regulator went bad and sent it to Mark Payne for repair. We discussed changing the pulley ratio in which I found a smaller alternator pulley to increase idle rpm but still be below the alternator max rpm.

Marginal improvement at best and after several runs it spit the belt off. Pulley was a tick narrower than the old one and the belt didn’t sit down in the v-groove as far as before.

Just gave up on it, felt it wasn’t worth the hassle.

Second reason is with the front exit headers there simply wasn’t room for a low mount alternator.

Being a round tube back half I knew the car would be nose heavy so I decided to simply add a second D1600 battery out back for more reserve power.
January 15, 2023, 08:08 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by Fabman:
Couple reasons. I had a 105 amp alternator on the Malibu and it never charged well at all at idle and low driving speeds. Regulator went bad and sent it to Mark Payne for repair. We discussed changing the pulley ratio in which I found a smaller alternator pulley to increase idle rpm but still be below the alternator max rpm.

Marginal improvement at best and after several runs it spit the belt off. Pulley was a tick narrower than the old one and the belt didn’t sit down in the v-groove as far as before.

Just gave up on it, felt it wasn’t worth the hassle.

Second reason is with the front exit headers there simply wasn’t room for a low mount alternator.

Being a round tube back half I knew the car would be nose heavy so I decided to simply add a second D1600 battery out back for more reserve power.


I understand. Electric Pumps and fans draw much, even at 16v.

I never charge my 12v battery at the track using a 150 amp alternator, even if I need to run the fan and pump for 4 to 5 minutes with the engine off.

But if I do charge at home, I follow Holley instructions

Holley EFI Warning Notice
• Important Battery Charger Usage!
Most battery chargers do not provide "clean" power to the vehicle and can cause voltage spikes that damage the ECU.
This is especially true of most 16V battery chargers. Adhere to the following guidelines!
‒ Never use the "cranking" setting on a charger to start the engine.
Do not set a charger to a charge current over 10 amps.
Charge the battery sufficiently, before trying to start the engine.
‒ If using a 16V battery charger, do not turn on the ECU switched power, nor start the engine with the charger on.
Make sure the charger is not charging over 18.5 volts.
‒ If the battery has sat for a long time, or is known to be discharged, it's best to charge the battery with everything
DISCONNECTED from the battery, while the battery is being charged.

https://www.moroso.com/alterna...unting-kit-bbc63867/
January 21, 2023, 04:46 PM
Fabman
Rear shocks wouldn't compress to correct ride height with the original 80# spring I installed, so had to swap to a 70#.

With these Santhuff/Landrum springs, anything lighter than 80# and they go to a beehive design coil. Little larger through the middle, kinda close to the shock sensor bodies, but still enough clearance they shouldn't touch.




January 21, 2023, 07:21 PM
markemark
What length are those springs? Could you have used next shorter length spring in same weight?
January 21, 2023, 07:32 PM
Fabman
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Originally posted by markemark:
What length are those springs? Could you have used next shorter length spring in same weight?


These are 14” long. No, cannot use a shorter spring or the spring would nearly fall out when you let the rear hang. That’s not how you get the shock to sit at a shorter ride height like we do on radial cars.

We’re now using 9 or even 11” stroke shocks on Pro 275 radial cars and those will often use a 14 or even 16” spring but to get the shock compressed correctly they will use a second light rate spring called a take up spring so the main spring doesn’t flop around at full extension.

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January 24, 2023, 06:39 PM
Fabman
Decided I was tired of sockets falling off the extension and scratching/denting the wheel while tightening/removing the rear wheel lug nuts.

A couple companies offer these but decided to make my own. $16 in two sockets and an hour on the lathe, then welding.








January 24, 2023, 06:43 PM
1320racer
I'll take 2
January 24, 2023, 06:50 PM
Fabman
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
I'll take 2


Mike Trauth Motorsports out of Kentucky makes and sells these to the public. He can be found on Facebook.

He offers various lengths, socket sizes and 6 or 12 point.

I just made this one for myself, did not want to step on his toes by selling against him.

There’s enough is this copy crap going on in the fabrication industry, I don’t like it and won’t do it myself.
January 24, 2023, 07:24 PM
1320racer
yours look better
January 25, 2023, 10:46 AM
seabass
I would take one as well.. lost mine at the airport security Frown


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January 25, 2023, 04:23 PM
1320racer
there's 2 orders now Big Grin
January 25, 2023, 04:43 PM
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January 25, 2023, 05:20 PM
S/C718
I will take one as well.
January 25, 2023, 05:57 PM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by Fabman:
I just made this one for myself, did not want to step on his toes by selling against him.

There’s enough is this copy crap going on in the fabrication industry, I don’t like it and won’t do it myself.


2BKING Like!


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
January 25, 2023, 05:57 PM
fatpack
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Originally posted by 1320racer:
there's 2 orders now Big Grin


Everything I've seen come out of that shop has impressed me!


Walt
January 25, 2023, 08:34 PM
Stickshifter_55
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Absolutely. Anyone contemplating a complete build must have a clear understanding of the cost to get from start to finish. Many project cars get abandoned and sold as the owner didn’t understand the scope of the project or the cost to see it to completion


A lot of people focus on one big ticket item like the engine and budget based on that. Then they realize they need a car, trailer, pickup truck..... money for gas. You know, the rest of it.
January 25, 2023, 10:01 PM
Little Chief
Is the extension you made mild steel or stainless tubing or other?
January 25, 2023, 10:15 PM
Fabman
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Originally posted by Little Chief:
Is the extension you made mild steel or stainless tubing or other?
Chromoly tubing.