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DRR Pro |
I know it's old news, but maybe some opinions have formed. I have thoughts and observations that I'll share later, but I'd like to see if anyone else has similar thoughts. Please discuss....like it / hate it, any observations you might want to share.??? "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | ||
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DRR S/Pro |
When I'm the faster footbrake car racing box cars and I forget to put the N on then I hate it. LOL Happened to me in a King of the Track race. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Doesn't matter around here. The tower would have absolutely no idea what the "N" indicates. I found that out by simply asking them. I make sure I am the slowest footbraker when entered in Top. As for the original question, I have never thought it was needed. But honestly, it doesn't really matter much to me. Heck, many small outlaw tracks around here don't even have it. Take care. Tom Worthington If it seems that bracket racing has gotten too expensive for you, maybe you are just doing it wrong. | |||
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DRR Trophy |
I like it, I found that many tracks didn't have the orientation of the top bulbs the same lane to lane, you sometimes could barely see half the bulb when crossing over. I like the clean tree and feel it makes better racing. I don't see any negative effect from it being used. I am curious to hear what could possibly make a person not like it. | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
It evened the playing field. New drivers don't have to really learn anything about cutting a light, its the same as sitting at home practicing. Back in the day, we had to cross and the top bulb was inconsistent when it would come on. Incandescent bulbs made the tree lighting tricky so you were changing delay when the sun was out vs behind a cloud and day to night. Some tracks had different roll out lane to lane (some still do.) Not to mention you get in a grovove then the track switches starters in the middle of a round, so now the top comes on completely different (fast or slow.) Crosstalk took all that away. One can just focus on the easiest setting now when practicing at home. I'd like to see how everyone does with a variable stage to go time, 1-4 seconds. 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
Crosstalk-ya its ok a no-brainer really but top bulb bottom bulb who cares little light comes on let go of da button-lol-ya I block two top bulbs when I go off the bottom The difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. Stupidity is the inability to learn. Don't be stupid | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
That would be interesting. I know for me, I’m so used to the super pro tree timing that when I do testing which they run on a slower tree it often messes me up. Usually I’m staged and on the button and the tree is taking forever and I think to myself “where’s the bulb? Oh yeah, it’s the slow tree…there it is! Crap now I’m late”  | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Spot on. The good racers knew how to compensate when crossing over, differences in daylight, could hit both sides of the tree. Those were skills that took time and focus to develop. CrossTalk on LED bulbs pretty much wiped all that out. Tony Leonard | |||
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| DRR Pro |
I like crosstalk and think it tightens the winning packages racing with a delay box. I race in both box and no-box classes. In box class I use a delay box. I would not like racing a variable time tree and I think others would agree considering this is money racing. I like 1.6 second trees and time the tree at the beginning of every event I attend to know if it’s not listed on the et slip. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
We went to Orlando in the 90's and the tree was so long (how long was it?) I would stage, take a deep breath and let it out, then hit the TB button and go on the 2-step. It was like a 5 second or more delay. It was brutal. 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
Tony is spot on | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
we used to have 4 different numbers at the same track | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Well, here's the back story to this topic. I *think* I spotted an anomaly in the system or software relating to Crosstalk, in at least 2 of the 3 popular timing systems, and it has to do with observed reaction times. Probably having to do with the mixing of DC voltage signals and sensors with AC voltage lamp circuits? I'll wait and see if anyone else has had feelings about it. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
if you are referencing the track in your profile pic... | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Nope. But feel free..... "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I usually have about a .010 reaction time wise no matter where I'm at. The track in your profile pic, had a .058 swing in 3 days of racing. Raced last week at a different track with .011 swing. | |||
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| DRR Pro |
That can be disturbing. There was an infrared on the starting line replaced one of the days. Friday during time shots? Left lane. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I ran both lanes while there. The gamblers race Saturday I was told 2 pair ahead of me first round the stage bulbs went crazy and they rebooted the computer. Two pair later I’m 56 then they stop for another 10 minutes, for ‘unknown’ reasons when I inquired about it. Anyway let’s hear your assessment. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
There were 4 LB3A's and 6 to 8 000x red lights in a camp with 8 to 10 cars that weekend. The LB3A's were being explained away using the incandescent cycling vs. infra red cycling and flickering the bulbs affect on it all. I have no clue, just what i heard from an official to one of the LB3A victims. Also heard that they turned stage lock off to try to combat issues. No proof on that just hearsay. | |||
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