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Converter bolts!!!!

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November 30, 2020, 08:02 PM
RPROGAS
Converter bolts!!!!
Meziere flex plate and a Select 9 inch converter with threaded lugs, not a problem.

Bob
November 30, 2020, 08:13 PM
Alaskaracer
Local guy built my converter, JW flexplate. I always run a thread chaser (NOT A TAP) through the threads when it's out to clean out the loctite and make sure the threads are good. All mine screw in by hand with no issues. I used antiseize ONCE......cost me a flexplate...loctite only now.....both crank and converter bolts....not playing that game again


Mark Goulette
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December 01, 2020, 06:44 AM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
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Originally posted by 1320racer:
Never an issue with ATI flexplates I have used for the past 30 years


I give you cra p about some stuff but I agree on the ATI flex plate. Just bought one and it’s a really nice piece.

of course it's a really nice piece, compared to the cheap chinese junk you use. you should listen to my advice more.


Yeah I don't need to do that.

Name the Chinese part on my car. I'll wait. I'm not the one pimping a company selling Chinese stuff and then telling people to buy another brand.



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December 01, 2020, 07:10 AM
1320racer
neither am I and I've seen photos of your shyt box. no doubt it has chinese junk! Spitting
December 01, 2020, 07:18 AM
BG7X77
quote:
Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
Never an issue with ATI flexplates I have used for the past 30 years


I give you cra p about some stuff but I agree on the ATI flex plate. Just bought one and it’s a really nice piece.

of course it's a really nice piece, compared to the cheap chinese junk you use. you should listen to my advice more.


Yeah I don't need to do that.

Name the Chinese part on my car. I'll wait. I'm not the one pimping a company selling Chinese stuff and then telling people to buy another brand.



I think the gauntlet has been thrown.

Ed has some sound advice and REALLY NICE STUFF. Trailer and car are top notch. He just cant help be a show off. He has some significant mental issues related to attention. He comes off as extremely arrogant and usually those persons are internally insecure. I for one try to weed through all the look at me, look at me comments for those rare nuggets of sound advice I may utilize to make an improvement. He won't stop being Ed you gotta just wade through the muck.


BG
December 01, 2020, 07:52 AM
1320racer
What have you added to this thread to help the OP? Answer...NOTHING. You post here solely to state your opinion about my reply and this isn't the first time. Newsflash, I nor anyone else cares about your opinion, you bring nothing to this forum in the way of advice, experience to help anyone.

Further, I didn't throw down, he did with misinformation.

Truth and Facts. He/his shyt box are full of chinese junk from the helmet on his head to the gloves on his hands to the wire looms on his spark plug wires to his air cleaner, to the fittings on his hoses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...UMo&feature=emb_logo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWD9KBtZZkw

Nice lap Laughing Hard


quote:
Originally posted by ferndaleflyer:
So says the man with a BIG BTE sticker on the side of his Firebird and if there is anything ATI its hidden

Yes says me and it's no secret here that I had been using ATI converters and flexplates and dampers for decades. Since 2019 we use BTE converters and transmissions in my cars. Great products that have been proven to perform consistently and WIN. Happy to represent.


Now back to the OP's issue
December 01, 2020, 07:52 AM
jenavet
quote:
He has some significant mental issues related to attention. He comes off as extremely arrogant and usually those persons are internally insecure. I for one try to weed through all

the only serious mental issue ed has is his love for drag racing...which means everyone on here has mental issues.
December 01, 2020, 07:53 AM
1320racer
jenavet...knows!

and the only reason I post here is to offer my advice and opinions, backed by decades of proven on track experience to those that come here looking for help.
December 01, 2020, 08:01 AM
TOP38
quote:
Originally posted by jenavet:
quote:
He has some significant mental issues related to attention. He comes off as extremely arrogant and usually those persons are internally insecure. I for one try to weed through all

the only serious mental issue ed has is his love for drag racing...which means everyone on here has mental issues.


Mikey, you are "everyone" too!! Laughing Hard

Hope you had a good Turkey Day! Be good and stay safe.
December 01, 2020, 08:10 AM
BG7X77
Here. I'll regurgitate what has already been said. I don't agree with using anti seize in this situation. I would and always use loctite on converter bolts. I would agree with the previous posts who recommended clearing treads with a tap to assure there isn't a bad thread at the top causing what feels like a cross threading started. I stripped a converter like this when I was 17 (young and dumb) and working on my 10 second race car (I'm 49).

I think I have been around this glorious sport of ours long enough to participate. I also have a Mechanical Engineering degree. I think I can have an intelligent conversation on the pros and cons of many racing subjects. There are MANY THINGS I do not know. That is the difference between you and I. You seem to believe you know EVERYTHING. It is frankly nauseating. You don't believe anyone can teach you a thing or you choose to never allude to it anyway. You appear to have ZERO interest in actually helping anyone. You appear to desire hero worship, which is your sole purpose of 99% of your posts. Ed you have a wealth of knowledge but your not infallible. I wish you well on your endeavor. It's call CLASS (and they dont sell it here or in China) and nobody likes a bully.

By the way you have a beautiful Firebird and trailer. Really nice stuff. You could be a whole lot more amenable in your online persona. If you really wanted to help people as you state on your tag line you would improve your approach. I hear in person your a decent egg.


BG
December 01, 2020, 08:28 AM
Matrix
Never met Ed in person but he doesn't seem like a bad guy. We had a good private convo about the go lithium battery. I was actually shocked that he chose lil ol me to talk to lol. I appreciate everyone's input. Ill be back in the garage this weekend


Daryl Pinder

Dynasty Motorsports
www.dynastymotorsports.com


December 01, 2020, 08:43 AM
DragRaceResults
Guys once you use these lock washers you will never use loctite again. They're a ratcheting step washer. Honestly amazing.

I changed converters 6 times this year in 2 cars, 5 times with these and never had one loose once I used them. Had 3 loose total the first go round.

I'd never use loctite on a bolt together converter which has thread inserts. These will fix any problem you have with them coming loose, bolt together or bolt through. AND they're reusable.



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December 01, 2020, 08:48 AM
BG7X77
Thanks. I will buy a set for this off season.

P.S.
Did a minute of research. Those are slick. Thanks for bringing those to our attention.

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BG
December 01, 2020, 09:36 AM
RPROGAS
The Nord Lock washers that "Collectorteathers" offers are the absolute best you can use for this application and at the best price.

No anti-seize and no lock-tite.

Given no other choice never re-use a conventional lock washer, the converter heat destroys their retention ability. A Nord-Lock washer can't back off, it's a ratchet type retention washer.

Bob
December 01, 2020, 10:11 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by RPROGAS:
The Nord Lock washers that "Collectorteathers" offers are the absolute best you can use for this application and at the best price.

No anti-seize and no lock-tite.

Given no other choice never re-use a conventional lock washer, the converter heat destroys their retention ability. A Nord-Lock washer can't back off, it's a ratchet type retention washer.

Bob


In a bolt through application, only three washers needed or 6?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
December 01, 2020, 11:19 AM
1320racer
quote:
Originally posted by BG7X77:
There are MANY THINGS I do not know.

that's an understatement and you clearly don't have the first hand experience and knowledge that I do.
December 01, 2020, 11:30 AM
Lenny5160
I’m amazed that there are so many issues of loose converter bolts. In 25 years of racing, 20 of them with two cars, I can count my loose converter bolts on my nipples and still have two left over.

I think I’ve been using the same 3 grade 8 fine thread bolts and aircraft nuts in my Nova over the entire time period.


Tony Leonard
December 01, 2020, 11:31 AM
1320racer
agreed, never have I had loose converter bolts.
December 01, 2020, 11:44 AM
BG7X77
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
quote:
Originally posted by BG7X77:
There are MANY THINGS I do not know.

that's an understatement and you clearly don't have the first hand experience and knowledge that I do.

You're right you do. Just try to be a little nicer. You could be a great ambassador to our sport.


I have never had a conveter bolt come loose either but I do think those washers are a better design. NORD LOCK has a good diagram on the design on their website.


BG
December 01, 2020, 11:49 AM
1320racer
that starts you who's been here for 5 minutes not replying to a thread solely to critique my advice and opinions.