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Currently using this pump on gas have have no issues, going to switch to alcohol with same pump.

Should I have any concerns?
 
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Hey Steve, what CID, RPM and carb size(s)?

I'm gonna say no problem at all, unless you plan to run a mountain motor and a pair of big Dominators.
I think that pump would easily max out the flow of a -10 fuel line at 15+ PSI.

For reference, when I first switched to alky on a 468 with a 1050 Dom, I was running an old Barry Grant 280 GPH pump, beneath a rear fuel cell, on a long door car. It was still showing A/F on the fat side at 7,000 RPM down track.


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I'm using that pump on alcohol. I am only a small block guy but I don't see how you could get more volume without going belt drive. LOL That thing is a firetruck hose pump.



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I am more concerned about the corrosive nature of alcohol after the pump has been running gas for so long, if it may cause a internal mechanical issue or something of that nature
 
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Well I’ve only had mine a year and I only run alcohol. Can’t say if you will have a problem or not. They are alcohol rated but there can be problems with any brand.



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steve mine would not supply enough fuel for my 598 on alky,on the belt drive i ran 4.40s


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mathematicly it should work,i ran it only one weekend on alky


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I had one die after about four years running both gas and alky through it. The pump itself was fine but the windings in the motor burned up. New one is still going two years later with a new one in the trailer.
 
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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Currently using this pump on gas have have no issues, going to switch to alcohol with same pump.

Should I have any concerns?


The Magnafuel web site says up to 2,000 Hp and Gas and Alcohol compatible. Should not be a problem.

Why are you wanting to go to alcohol? Looking to run cooler, better performance?

I would like to know how it works out for you but I think you should be good with that pump.


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I have a magna pump on our BBC Nova in alky. It only runs 6.0s so around 700 hp no problem. Been running it for about 5 years no problems.


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i will add the seal is the exact same one as in the bg400 pump


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Why are you wanting to go to alcohol? Looking to run cooler, better performance?

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Yes and yes
 
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Been using one for 4 years, just a tick over 900 runs with alcohol.
We use Klotz Uplon top lube and drain the system and run some two-stroke mix through the fuel system when we park it for 5 months of winter storage. It puts 27 lbs to the regulator, using an Aeromotive bypass regulator set at 6.5 lbs. Troublefree.


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Originally posted by Big Steve:
I am more concerned about the corrosive nature of alcohol after the pump has been running gas for so long, if it may cause a internal mechanical issue or something of that nature

Steve, you probably have already made your decision, but to answer your concern, I can't imagine this being an issue at all. (Not a mechanical engineer, but I did take a lot of electrical and mechanical engineering courses).


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I'd run an Aeromotive before I'd run another magnafuel. And for alky I'd run a belt driven pump before an electric. How much fuel delivery do you need?


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Ran one on alky for years on 582 and have one aero on dragster 582.

Forget running it with 16v.. Too much fuel and it won't regulate with tank in rear. Learned that the expensive way.

With all that said and if you haven't bought anything yet go straight to a belt drive pump. Far far far more consistent and better setup. I switched on my Vette and it made the car much more consistent.



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Ran one on alky for years on 582 and have one aero on dragster 582.

Forget running it with 16v.. Too much fuel and it won't regulate with tank in rear. Learned that the expensive way.

With all that said and if you haven't bought anything yet go straight to a belt drive pump. Far far far more consistent and better setup. I switched on my Vette and it made the car much more consistent.


I doubt he will go to a belt drive pump because on his truck he has a lot of weight on the front. Probably does not want to move tank up front taking weight off back and moving it to the front.

On the electric fuel pump, I am not a fan of Aerospace Components brakes or vacuum pumps but I have had good results with their electric fuel pump.


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Originally posted by ski_dwn_it:

Forget running it with 16v.. Too much fuel and it won't regulate with tank in rear.


Simply not true, I ran this past season on 16V, actually closer to 18V with the alternator. Put lighter spring in the bypass regulator and drilled out the body under the seat for more flow. Pressure out of the pump at 18lbs, dead head regulator at the carb set at 6lbs and pressure was rock solid according to the logger.
 
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I was running a return style regulator... Even went to -12 return line to rear cell. No luck. MF couldn't figure it out either. PTFE line, straight as possible with no fittings except ends.
 
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Just to let you guys know but magna fuel will rebuild your pump for the price of the parts. They charged me no labor. Unless they have changed that policy. I thought that was pretty stand up. Fellow racer told me so thought I would pass it on


 
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