Okay, so it was time to retire my daily beater '05 Gran Prix and we thought we'd just get another Acadia like our '18 model, but you can't even get the V-6 anymore, so that was out.
I've been so sick of FWD garbage, I even considered a Camaro, but they don't build those anymore.
The only RWD V-8 option for a GM buyer is a 1500 series pickup.

So our 2025 is in, got about 700 miles on it.
Crew cab, short bed, RWD, 5.3, 10-speed, GMC Elevation with roof, tow package, running boards, heated / power leather etc.
It's growing on me. Power and handling are okay, interior layout is pretty good, has a few "driver aid" gee-gaws I could do without. The Bose system is a little weak at low volume, but if you like to crank it up, it's superb.
The most annoying is probably having to remember to turn off the auto shutoff deal.
17-19 mpg regular driving, a short highway hop got 25 + mpg.
Somehow so far it's my new daily....if I can keep her out of it, this might work.

Just a sad day in America when you can't get something decent to drive, except a truck.

Maybe we can get rid of the stupid EPA mandates and build American cars again.....

So my "expert" ridiculed '23 gas Dually, that is stupid, and "will never be built" has a little brother.

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The Bose system is a little weak at low volume, but if you like to crank it up, it's superb.

Firstly, maybe you should broaden your horizons regarding suppliers. It's not your grandfathers GM anymore. I assume you're aware there is likely a volume vs speed commentator feature in your sound system, which might help at low volume.

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The Bose system is a little weak at low volume, but if you like to crank it up, it's superb.

Firstly, maybe you should broaden your horizons regarding suppliers. It's not your grandfathers GM anymore. I assume you're aware there is likely a volume vs speed commentator feature in your sound system, which might help at low volume.

They've done away with the speed sensitive volume apparently, the '23 doesn't have it either.

Yeah, I know GM is just Chi-nah motors now, but they're still way ahead of the curve on the things that matter to me.

If I could go back to '06 I'd buy 3 of those Pontiacs. 280K miles and zero issues, until it sprung an oil leak somewhere.

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Just a sad day in America when you can't get something decent to drive, except a truck. Frown

Maybe we can get rid of the stupid EPA mandates and build American cars again.....

I believe if we were to loosen EPA restrictions they may be able to get 35% better fuel mileage.

Use less fuel then you put out less emissions.

I always said I do not care what they do I will never drive a Front Wheel drive Econobox. Then I bought an almost new 2008 HHR and put 175,000? thousand miles on it before someone hit it and totaled it. Loved that car, most comfortable car I have ever had, great mileage, carried most everything I needed and fun to drive. After it got totaled I found a nice used SS HHR and have now got 215,000 miles on it. Been a really good car but it is time for me to retire it. Just bought a 4 door Z71 Chevy Colorado with the V6 as my new daily driver and really like it so far.

We are looking for something new or a couple years old AWD for my wife. The Lincoln aviator is nice and she likes them. But damn the sticker on those. Going to look at the vw atlas I think tomorrow. She doesn’t like the exploder or any of the gm’s she has seen. I don’t even ask why anymore.
Any suggestions in that size vehicle?

Just bought another AWD Subaru Outback for my wife. Gave the 2016 Subaru AWD Outback to one of our grand daughters.

Great fuel mileage, turning radius and handling not to mention all the safety features not found in many of the newer vehicles. Second time around with Subaru and probably not done buying them. My wife's safety is the key reason.

Bob

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Just bought another AWD Subaru Outback for my wife. Gave the 2016 Subaru AWD Outback to one of our grand daughters.

Great fuel mileage, turning radius and handling not to mention all the safety features not found in many of the newer vehicles. Second time around with Subaru and probably not done buying them. My wife's safety is the key reason.

Bob

Lot of em in CA. But here is you drive a Subaroo it’s like having a Bernie sanders sticker on your bumper. We just can’t. Plus it’s over an hour away to a subaroo dealer.

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[QUOTE] Just bought a 4 door Z71 Chevy Colorado with the V6 as my new daily driver and really like it so far.

I wanted to go that way, no V-6 anymore.

I wish there was an automotive website that was not influenced by any manufacturer, and exposed some of the good, and especially the BAD engineering that exists in some of the newer vehicles.

Just a couple of examples I have seen: Belt driven oil pumps. Talking super skinny rubber belts that I sure as heck would not want to trust for 100K miles or more in that important of a job. (IIRC Ranger & the new GM Little Mini-Duramax, among others).

Kia anything, their valve to piston clearance is so tight that as your bearings wear, you have contact on the top end and soon trash the engine.

And (My Opinion) Anything with a freaking timing belt. Stupid idea. Yeah, some few get lucky for 200K miles. Pop that sucker and your engine is gone. I'd rather have a 6 foot chain like an old Cammer than that junk.

Having personally helped with diagnosing and/pulling junk engines out of Kias, Hondas, etc that turned into paperweights because of shyt engineering that was great for their profit margins, and sucked for the unsuspecting folks that bought them. No failed engines due to snapped oil pump drive belts yet, but that is a relatively new idiot engineering trick, so I am sure they are coming... All this crap that gets the vehicle through the warranty period, then bites the owner with hefty repair bills.

I can't believe the sticker prices on some of these vehicles.

I am all about capitalism, but I also believe the mark up on these vehicles (and the options) needs to settle back down to earth.

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I can't believe the sticker prices on some of these vehicles.

I am all about capitalism, but I also believe the mark up on these vehicles (and the options) needs to settle back down to earth.

I totally agree. It’s insane. But I say that about trailer prices too

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Originally posted by Yellow Ticket:
I can't believe the sticker prices on some of these vehicles.

I am all about capitalism, but I also believe the mark up on these vehicles (and the options) needs to settle back down to earth.

I totally agree. It’s insane. But I say that about trailer prices too

I totally agree, it is insane but I would say that about everything from eggs to clothes, cars, insurance and taxes. I do believe it will come down but maybe not as good as it was.

The think that keeps the used market high are all the foolish folks that finance the entire purchase price and owe more than they are worth. They can’t sell it for what it is worth and pay their loan

I recently went "backwards" to move forward with my vehicle.

After getting out of the T/D game and selling my 48' trailer, I had no need or desire to keep my Dually, but did want another pick up, so I got a Ram 1500 Hemi which was great until I got back into racing and purchased a 20' enclosed trailer. The 1500 Hemi truck towed it OK, BUT it did struggle at highway speeds going up the slightest incline like an overpass on the interstate it would have to rev to 3500-4000 RPM up to make the power necessary and fuel milage was awful I got 8 MPG towing at 70 MPH. So, I decided that a I needed to go back to a diesel but wanted no part of a newer diesel with all the troublesome emissions crap (been there, done that). So, I searched until I found a pre-emissions truck in good shape. I ended up with a 06 Dodge with the 5.9 Cummins. Back in 2008 to 2017 I had a 06 Dodge dually with the 5.9 and put a ton of towing miles on it without any problems. My new to me 06 is a 2500 Mega Cab that I purchased from the original owner that had all the maintenance records from day one and he really kept up with the maintenance actually going overboard. In the 18 months prior to me buying it from him he spent 16K on repairs (injectors, lift pump, EVERYTHING in the brakes, front end and cooling system, all wheel/axle bearings front and rear, A/C compressor, almost new tires, the list goes on......the interior is in great shape as was the body, no dents/dings or rust, and everything works as it should. The paint however was shot. I paid 12K for it and had a very nice paint job done by a friend of mine for about half of what you'd expect to pay. I have a total of about 16K in the truck now after putting an up-to-date sound system in it with all the bells and whistles. I have towed with it on several occasions now and get 13-14 MPG at 75+ MPH and get 20 MPG not towing at 75+ MPH.

Is it a new fancy truck? NO. but it's very comfortable and does what I want it to well with minimal investment.

What’s happening Bender! Spoke with Moe for a while.
I would not be without my dually diesel duramax. If I’m not towing my car I’m hauling 6 tons gravel per trip.
Love that truck and now it’s time for a seat and headliner!

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Great find on a used 5.9 2500 truck Bender. That 20’ trailer you’re towing must weight 9k#+. Agreed that Towing 70 or faster with any gas engine will return the mileage you posted.

Because my daily driver is also my tow vehicle, if I had to purchase today I’d consider a new 1500 GMC/ Chevy 6.2 because I prefer gas. But I do wonder how the 1500 with 3.0 Duramax would be for towing and would want to try one in front of my trailer driving Fancy Gap. There’s no way a 2500 works as my daily driver much less a diesel.

I scoured the used truck market for many years, and came to the conclusion that I would never get a crew cab, or I'd have to order one.
As the market went crazy, it made more sense to finance a new truck rather than deplete cash reserves that are earning near double the new truck interest rate.
Same with the daily driver stuff, it was / is cheaper to finance a new vehicle than pay cash.

My biggest complaint is the lack of option choices....you have to buy things you don't want to get the things you do want. There are no unique vehicles anymore.
Libtards have finally destroyed the American freedom machines.

trade before warranty runs out

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trade before warranty runs out

I purchased a Mopar Factory 7 yr / 100k Maximum Care Warranty several months after getting my new truck from a dealer specializing in discounted factory warrantys. At the time it was offered at $50 over dealer cost. Although I probably will never need it, I know several that have used it. At 7yrs mine will have 100k towing 60% of the miles. I have plans of replacing at that time.

be sure it is the manufacturers warranty no doubt. they are bad enough on restrictions but the independents are collosal rip offs.