Delay Box Strategies

July 01, 2022, 09:25 PM

Curly1

quote:
Originally posted by banjo:
This is one of those things where collecting data is king. It allows you to learn what your tendencies are.

I track all my runs in an excel spreadsheet and analyze the data to look for trends.

For example, when I first started racing, I would try to set up for 10 or better. After looking at the data I found that overwhelmingly the majority of my red lights were less than .005. So I set up for 15 or better and I have less red-lights.

I would rather be set up soft and be in the race then go .001 red.

Another thing is learning to access how you let go of the button. That is critical to making adjustments. So many times I have knocked .005 out of the box because I was a little slow the previous round, only to go less than .005 red.

Another thing I found for me, typically the later in the rounds I would get, my lights would fall off. I found as each round would go by, I would get more amped up, which for me slowed down my reaction time. I would tense up more which would cause me to have a slower release of the button. I could duplicate it on my practice tree. So I really worked at that mental aspect to try an not let the excitement amp me up.

Very true there, while I am not allowed to use a Delay box I do use a Just in time button to adjust my reaction. I tend to get more amped up first round, once I get past first round I settle down and relax and get more confident. Especially later rounds when I am in the money so sit back and do my job.
But is comes down to the last line of your post the Mental aspect of it.

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July 02, 2022, 09:33 AM

Don Higgins Crew Chief Pro Software

I add .020 for first round if I am .005 or better in my time runs, after that I adjust to be .010. If the car cooperates then I feel pretty good.

July 04, 2022, 09:44 AM

Mike Rietow

I guarantee this guy added 070 to the box.

I know him, pitted with him a couple years. Built engines and transmissions for him.

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July 04, 2022, 09:52 AM

Mike Rietow

This is bracket racing 2022.

July 04, 2022, 04:34 PM

Don Higgins Crew Chief Pro Software

Oh, so we are posting time slips?

July 05, 2022, 02:47 PM

moparacer

Here is my "Redlight Ritual" I posted about just like the OP uses at work over the weekend.

11 rounds this weekend I had 1085 in the box....The other day I mentioned my kill number is 1080. You guys that race for a living go easy on me...No dragster or high dollar parts on my ****box....You can hardly read the numbers on my old mega 400 lmfao.

7/03
.012
.009
.007
.017
.022 knew I missed it again but tree was dropping on my side and didn't bump it. Guy in the other lane was .009 dead 1...

7/04
.001
.007
.021 Completely missed that and bumped it .03 lol. Got lucky and guy in other lane was .021 too. I could run the number and he couldn't.
.008
.009
.0005 RED lol. Think I took a small chunk.

This is what I was saying in my earlier post if I am off a bunch I wont move anything and hit it again. Even on the days when I can't seem to cut a light to save my life (seems to happen with regularity as I get older) I don't move it. Because more often then not I end up red as soon as I catch it.

July 05, 2022, 03:02 PM

Alaskaracer

When I'm bracket racing, I never change my delay...I leave it set where it's at. When I'm going on a pro tree I zero it out....done.....

July 05, 2022, 06:31 PM

Goob

Don't go red.

goob- with a green lamp and a good car, good things can happen.

July 05, 2022, 06:41 PM

Mike Rietow

quote:
Originally posted by Don Higgins Crew Chief Pro Software:
Oh, so we are posting time slips?

That's a good race actually, spray and dump almost worked for him.

Almost

July 07, 2022, 10:16 AM

NortonRacing

That wasn't spray and dump, look at the incrementals.

High gear only....

July 07, 2022, 10:34 AM

Mike Rietow

quote:
Originally posted by NortonRacing:
That wasn't spray and dump, look at the incrementals.

High gear only....

7.30 car spray and dump.

It's harder than you might think, to go that slow early in the run. Also look at the MOV (dragster 002 above with a triple zero light.

I can't imagine anyone would setup a light car, to go slower than Super Pro legal et's.

It's possible though.

This is high gear only 3225 lbs 23 sbc.

July 07, 2022, 10:40 AM

Lenny5160

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by NortonRacing:
That wasn't spray and dump, look at the incrementals.

High gear only....

7.30 car spray and dump.

It's harder than you might think, to go that slow early in the run.

I can't imagine anyone would setup a light car, to go slower than Super Pro legal et's.

Also look at the MOV.

It's possible though.

This is high gear only 3200 lbs 23 sbc.

It's a Super Street car bracket racing on the stop.

July 07, 2022, 10:44 AM

Mike Rietow

quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by NortonRacing:
That wasn't spray and dump, look at the incrementals.

High gear only....

7.30 car spray and dump.

It's harder than you might think, to go that slow early in the run.

I can't imagine anyone would setup a light car, to go slower than Super Pro legal et's.

Also look at the MOV.

It's possible though.

This is high gear only 3200 lbs 23 sbc.

It's a Super Street car bracket racing on the stop.

That I could see, but to go that slow early, it would have to be a 2.70 final gear in a light, light car to go 107 mph, high gear only.

Anyway you look at it, it's a good race. Almost worked.

July 07, 2022, 12:10 PM

1800gb

Not really....1.73 60ft.....109+ mph...400 sbc...over3000lbs...high gear only..deep staging....

July 07, 2022, 12:53 PM

Lenny5160

It's a Super Street guy. Scott Moore. On the stop.

July 07, 2022, 03:25 PM

Mike Rietow

quote:
Originally posted by 1800gb:
Not really....1.73 60ft.....109+ mph...400 sbc...over3000lbs...high gear only..deep staging....

Bring a time slip that says July, 100 degrees in the shade.

Ripper Nova will go 111 - 112 mph high gear only in decent conditions 3225 lbs, from Oct to the first week in May.

Calling out numbers don't count, bring evidence > time slips.

Every claim I make I bring irrefutable evidence.

July 07, 2022, 05:07 PM

Goob

quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
It's a Super Street guy. Scott Moore. On the stop.

Don't burst his bubble....

July 07, 2022, 08:48 PM

1800gb

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by 1800gb:
Not really....1.73 60ft.....109+ mph...400 sbc...over3000lbs...high gear only..deep staging....

Bring a time slip that says July, 100 degrees in the shade.

Ripper Nova will go 111 - 112 mph high gear only in decent conditions 3225 lbs, from Oct to the first week in May.

Calling out numbers don't count, bring evidence > time slips.

Every claim I make I bring irrefutable evidence.

The post are not meant to be in competition,they are just stating most of this stuff has already been done and currently still being done....The time slips shouldn't be a problem.But time slips will not prove what car produced them.Everyone have a phone the will record video....How about some video runs with the time clock showing in the end....July video should be available....but it is not a 100 degrees in the shade....

July 07, 2022, 10:25 PM

Mike Rietow

Competition is not a sin. Cheating in competition is a sin.

Trust me I can go faster mph high gear only.

When it cools off and the track gets good, I'll let it all hang out.

July 07, 2022, 10:46 PM

Lenny5160

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Competition is not a sin. Cheating in competition is a sin.

Trust me I can go faster mph high gear only.

When it cools off and the track gets good, I'll let it all hang out.

Maybe you need more tire if you’re waiting for the track to get good enough to let a 1.65 car “eat.”