Looking nthru some old post on loggers and checking rpm site. Stuff looks good and most of you guys had favorable comments.Emailed them to check capatablity of my egts and maybe pressor stuff. EGT;s look like they will work ,pressure stuff not so much.

My question is on software and user friendly. Remember working with computers not my thing for most part. Simpler the better .

None better than RPM. Period. Randy is great to work with and with one of my systems I was able to use some of my old sensors. Still if you are not real good with computers you may want to buy complete with his sensors so they are calibrated so it is more or less plug and play.

On my new system I put on the new car I am able to monitor most everything from trans temp, water temp, oil temp, fuel pressure, brake pressure, oil pressure, G-Forces, driveshaft RPM, engine RPM, 8 O2's, Vacuum and more for way less money than some of the others.

As for warranty he will take care of his systems long even long after warranty expires. You can get one of his smaller systems and easily upgrade to more channels later. System is relatively easy to install. When I started building the new car the RPM system is only one I would consider.

The program is easy to use and expandable.

Well if egt's I have work with his stuff and looks like they might I will get the 20 channel setup. If I get rpms,8 egt's trans temp,head temp(no water), oil pressure and a fuel pressure to track pump I am good.Everything else is gravy. Looks like my rpm sensor will work also.

looks like 1200 to 1400 will cover it and that just happens to be amount of extra I will have from Beijing biden. He11 at least the pos will be good for something.

Agree with everything Curly said. We have two of them. Randy is great.

I think in the long run it will be cheaper, quicker and easier to buy everything complete rather than piecing together and then having to calibrate it all but it can be done.

On my first system I used a lot of my old sensors but I had someone who could help me and he calibrated it and set it up. He is a computer whiz kid and a big help.

The system I bought for the new Altered I am building I ordered everything I will ever need so it is basically plug and play. Do this one time new and from RPM so I can do all the wiring one time with a clean operation.

One of the problems many of us have made with wiring is not doing everything you need the first time. Then if you add something you have to come back in rip out wires, splice them or what ever and you end up with a mess or problems. So if you think you are going to add something later on the logger try to do it now and wire it one time.

Also many of the data loggers have rather long sensor one size fits all wires and they coil up the extra. On my RPM system I laid everything out and cut wires to length then marked them and sent them back to have the ends put on. Took me a few extra days to get them back but everything fits nice and clean with no extra wires and I think it is worth it.

One other little thing I did was when I wired the car I tried to run most all ignition and electrical wiring on drivers side and all Data Logger stuff possible on the passenger side. Then have most everything color coded and marked to make it easier if there ever is any issues.

Hope this helps.

Agree might be cheaper in long run. Right now getting to long run means getting as much as can with as little out lay as possible.

EGT sensors are same ones he uses and new ones would be big expense. Rpm sensor look to be same, but only 150 bucks if don't work and using two. I will need mag adapter piece and figure that means only need one rpm sensor.

All wiring is on right except 12v to starter which I just finished moving to left side to get away from oil pan cutout and having to remove starter to drop the pan crap I was having to do.

Will RPM interface with MSD grid like racepak does? Grid is in cars future just matter of time.

I have an RPM Logger. And agree with Curly Randy is great to work with and his help is just as smart (cannot remember his name) He has helped me a couple of times when Randy was out.

Your EGT's are the same if they are the K type. You will need what he calls a conditioner. A little box with a circuit board that all the EGT's go into before the logger 4 EGT's per conditioner. Driveshaft sensor is pretty standard. Other sensors are all 5 volt. The issue with using someones other than his is they send a paper that tells you what the calibrations are.

Software. Easy to use and it's free. Just download it from his web site and play with it. You can also send your data to anyone who has downloaded the software so you can discuss it with them. Or send it to Randy and he will look at it as well.
Heck of a deal. I've had mine for more than 10 years with no issues other than replacing a sensor or 2.
I recommend not mounting the sensors other than temp to the engine. The vibrations will kill them over time. All of my pressure sensors are mounted to the chassis and braided lines go to them.

Hope Info helps.

Dave

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Originally posted by David Covey:
I have an RPM Logger. And agree with Curly Randy is great to work with and his help is just as smart (cannot remember his name) He has helped me a couple of times when Randy was out.

You’re talking about Tony. He’s great as well!

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Originally posted by 183N:

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Originally posted by David Covey:
I have an RPM Logger. And agree with Curly Randy is great to work with and his help is just as smart (cannot remember his name) He has helped me a couple of times when Randy was out.

You’re talking about Tony. He’s great as well!

Yes Tony is the other guy there and he is good to work with.

I agree on the sensors and that is with any system. Not because of vibration as I have not had any problem but because I tried to centralize all of my wiring and make it easy as possible to remove motor or trace any issues. I put my oil and Brake pressure sensors on a tee fitting on back of my dash gauge. Now when I pull motor I do not have to worry about the sensor or the wiring getting damaged. Just disconnect the small stainless hose that goes to the gauge. My logger is off to right side of drivers seat so I was able to get away with very short, clean looking wiring. One set of wires goes up to dash gauge area for oil, brake, record etc and another set goes to rear of car for main power, drive shaft RPM. Then one set of wires goes to front for fuel pressure, oil temp, trans temp, MSD RPM pick up along with vacuum hose.
My vacuum sensor is mounted 6 inches away from the logger and then the small vacuum hose goes to motor. Doing things like that makes it easy to trace down should there ever be a problem.

From what I can tell the loggers are very dependable if you ever have a problem it will most likely be a wiring issue much of which you can eliminate by planning.

egt conditioner as called. Looks to be connector that connects each bank to one plug that plugs into logger. Mine are already tied into connector that will fit the plug on logger and Have cables that connects the two. Going to give them a call Monday. If my egt's will work? I will be ordering. If not I will put system on back burner for while.

I am guessing system will not work with grid like racepak will, another question for tomorrow

I still have the same oil pressure sensor mounted directly to the block that I got with my RPM logger 10 years ago. I also have the trans pressure sensor screwed directly to the servo cover on the trans, never had any issues.

Chris, the RPM logger does not integrate with the Grid. No reason why your EGT thermal couples wont work with the RPM logger. Alls the RPM connection box does is convert the thermal couples to a DB9 connectors to send the signal the interface that connects to the DL10 logger

I figure there is some way to overlay graphs from the two systems thru some computer stuff. I figure print the two and overlaying them will do same thing in a manor I can do w/o throwing laptop against wall. I can tell you that will screw them up.?LOL

The integrating of two systems would be nice. As Curly said I can get more with rpm especially with racepak requiring higher price deal with mag. Pretty sure I can do rpm and timing overlay with grid now that I think about it. Heck thats issue for another day dwon the road a ways. One system at a time.Can't help trying to think ahead some. Would hate to get some money that is not already spent.

RPM is the best, great customer service and very easy to use. I have the RF device on mine so no cables, just pull up beside the trailer, get out, hit a button on the computer and it is downloaded. It is so much less expensive than Racepak and a lot easier to see and use. The sensors are about half the price and when you get your kit all the cables are extra long, mark them with tape, send it back to them and they terminate them for free; now all your lines are run exactly where you wanted without having spools of unused wire zip tied to the frame somewhere.

Well so far the biggest selling point is zero negative feed back.On this site that is doing something.

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
I still have the same oil pressure sensor mounted directly to the block that I got with my RPM logger 10 years ago. I also have the trans pressure sensor screwed directly to the servo cover on the trans, never had any issues.

The direct sensor mount with no vibration isolation and not failing is IMPRESSIVE. What Brand Sensors??

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Originally posted by markemark:

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
I still have the same oil pressure sensor mounted directly to the block that I got with my RPM logger 10 years ago. I also have the trans pressure sensor screwed directly to the servo cover on the trans, never had any issues.

The direct sensor mount with no vibration isolation and not failing is IMPRESSIVE. What Brand Sensors??

Not sure without looking. It is whatever Randy at RPM sells. I did have a boost sensor fail and it is remote mounted lol

Okay, so I have 4 of the DL10 boxes and have installed at least 10 of them for others over the years. You asked about negative feedback. I wish the log book was better. Oh, and I wish the shock sensor was cheaper so I could make myself pull the trigger on one. LOL Bout all I have.

We have used RPM data logger for 12 years, Just installed their digital dash in the S10 and used the older DL10 logger.
Works great, easy to use and calibrating sensors isn't bad with a phone call.

I went with the RPM logger after doing some research and on the recommendation of Big Steve here and his son who has been a huge help. When I built my Front Engine Dragster I used the same logger I had on my Altered with a few upgrades like the digital dash.

On the new Altered I am currently building I went the RPM logger that records most everything but I did not use the digital dash on the new car. The dash is hard to read during a pass.

The advantage of the digital dash is you can click through the screens and see all of the important information. You could not put enough gauges on your dash to view all that information. On the home page I have oil pressure, water temp and RPM but on other pages I have 8 of the O2, so I can tell what each cylinder is doing, transmission temp, voltage, brake pressure and much more.
So there is a lot you can do with the dash. Should I decide to add it later it is a two minute deal.