Bracket Talk
Dragster headers?
January 21, 2020, 07:10 PM
FreddieDragster headers?
Ok so is there any difference in performance on up swept vs down swept headers on dragsters or is it simply owner preference? I am working with a Small block with the Stahl pattern and need headers just looking for some info before I buy something. Also if anyone has anything laying around let me know. Price could sway my decision.
January 21, 2020, 08:26 PM
CashflowI like my upswept headers because you don’t get burned near as often.
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am.......
January 21, 2020, 10:51 PM
Mopar TraitorYea, its monkey see, monkey do.... that being said I have the downs on this car but liked the ups on the old car better and if I bought new it would be ups and chromed...
January 22, 2020, 08:29 AM
TD3550Easier plug access,No ankle damage or flash burns.
More floor space for more junk. ETC. Plus if you have an engine issue, the *** hopefully won't blow under the hides. Plus if you're running Q16, it is an excellent mosquito killer.lol
January 22, 2020, 09:04 AM
TOP38quote:
Originally posted by Freddie:
Ok so is there any difference in performance on up swept vs down swept headers on dragsters or is it simply owner preference? I am working with a Small block with the Stahl pattern and need headers just looking for some info before I buy something. Also if anyone has anything laying around let me know. Price could sway my decision.
Apples to apples IMO none that you would ever see on track!
For the folks who complain about burning legs with down swepts,, take your pick, arms for up swepts and legs for down! Looks is just personal preference.
For racers putting two dragsters in one trailer, ups may provide more space but I have never had issues doing this with either.
January 22, 2020, 09:14 AM
358TLOL, I have up's and if i get burned it is my knee area (when fueling etc) or my wrist area (when pulling a plug for a read).
Scott
January 22, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mike Frizienot to hijack, but is there a real advantage of stainless vs mild steel? thinking about some new ones myself?
Michael Frizie
ET 2471
January 22, 2020, 10:38 AM
Freddiequote:
Originally posted by DRB Motorsports:
not to hijack, but is there a real advantage of stainless vs mild steel? thinking about some new ones myself?
Good question. I was also considering if there is any difference in the Borla Mufflers or just open?
January 22, 2020, 10:41 AM
TOP38IMO stainless is the only way to go. Steel will rust from the inside out.
Borla collector mufflers work good, usually you loose ET based on the weight they add vs just an open collector, HP is not normally effected from what I have seen.
January 22, 2020, 10:56 AM
Mad DogHave had both, burns can happen with either if you're not careful...
Didn't see any notable performance difference between either ups or downs. Some will say downs have less wind resistance, for what that's worth...
The stainless up-swept Borlas with the big Borlas mufflers did weigh quite a bit more than the stainless Fab Shop down-swept with merge collectors. My guess would be twice as heavy...
Don't forget to have the collectors welded per rule book or install the clamp and cable kits that are available...
Dan
Dan
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January 23, 2020, 09:15 AM
183Nquote:
Originally posted by DRB Motorsports:
not to hijack, but is there a real advantage of stainless vs mild steel? thinking about some new ones myself?
If you plan to keep them awhile go stainless. Like Al said, all the mild steel ones eventually rust. My stainless headers are also coated so I don’t need to keep up with polishing them.
January 23, 2020, 09:22 AM
rustyits harder to work in the trans area with ups.cant coast without rocks going in pipes.i think downs just look better
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January 23, 2020, 10:14 AM
TD3550I can tell you one thing. the Dynatek ups i have are heavy. Stainless, 38 Lbs each
January 23, 2020, 10:26 AM
NC3x58It comes down to personal preference on look and sound honestly... My car has Fabshop stainless steel gen 3 downswepts and those are my all time favorite header made. From what I understand though, there really isn't much of a difference between ups/downs, stainless/mild steel and muffler or no muffler really. If there is any difference, your talking like .02 at the most really.
Nick Craig
1971 Camaro Split Bumper
376ci LS3
January 23, 2020, 01:46 PM
BD104Xquote:
Originally posted by TOP38:
IMO stainless is the only way to go. Steel will rust from the inside out.
Borla collector mufflers work good, usually you loose ET based on the weight they add vs just an open collector, HP is not normally effected from what I have seen.
Agree with Al on the Borlas. I just put the typical chrome Dynatech downswept on my car... they are cool looking but I'm not impressed with the quality. Go with a good set of stainless.
Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com