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Glide Wedding Ring

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April 24, 2021, 11:58 AM
chasracer
Glide Wedding Ring
Second one that I have run into like this. The wedding ring is jammed about mid-way of the input shaft. What should I look for as the cause? This is a straight cut gearset if it makes any difference.
April 24, 2021, 12:13 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by chasracer:
Second one that I have run into like this. The wedding ring is jammed about mid-way of the input shaft. What should I look for as the cause? This is a straight cut gearset if it makes any difference.


china splines?

Wing Wong Ching Chong manufacturing.

Post a photo
April 24, 2021, 01:12 PM
adv ET 266
It’s brass and can easily get deformed enough to cause that. Look close at the input shaft splines and the inside of the ring for issues and clean up with a fine tooth round edge file.



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April 24, 2021, 01:26 PM
chasracer
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by chasracer:
Second one that I have run into like this. The wedding ring is jammed about mid-way of the input shaft. What should I look for as the cause? This is a straight cut gearset if it makes any difference.


china splines?



ATI shaft. Trans was built back around 2004-05.
April 24, 2021, 01:45 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by chasracer:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by chasracer:
Second one that I have run into like this. The wedding ring is jammed about mid-way of the input shaft. What should I look for as the cause? This is a straight cut gearset if it makes any difference.



china splines?



ATI shaft. Trans was built back around 2004-05.



What is the issue? Will the input shaft go all the way in? If it will, there is no problem!!


Slide the band on the input till it stops and post a photo of band and input, if it won't!!
April 25, 2021, 12:45 AM
Bad Nusz
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by chasracer:
Second one that I have run into like this. The wedding ring is jammed about mid-way of the input shaft. What should I look for as the cause? This is a straight cut gearset if it makes any difference.


china splines?

Wing Wong Ching Chong manufacturing.

Post a photo


The Sum Ting Wong Company, Beijing ;^)
April 25, 2021, 03:27 PM
DON KALINA
I BENCH TEST ABOUT TEN WEDDING BAND'S ONTO THE INPUT SHAFT...SOME DON'T FIT AT ALL....THE BTE ONES ALWAYS FIT...CORE GLIDES BAND..50-50.

SOME TRANS BUILDERS GET THE INPUT SHAFT HALF IN & THEN SMACK IT WITH A RUBBER HAMMER...IT'LL GO...EACH TO THERE OWN...
April 25, 2021, 06:09 PM
chasracer
quote:
Originally posted by DON KALINA:
I BENCH TEST ABOUT TEN WEDDING BAND'S ONTO THE INPUT SHAFT...SOME DON'T FIT AT ALL....THE BTE ONES ALWAYS FIT...CORE GLIDES BAND..50-50.

SOME TRANS BUILDERS GET THE INPUT SHAFT HALF IN & THEN SMACK IT WITH A RUBBER HAMMER...IT'LL GO...EACH TO THERE OWN...


I had to take a plastic hammer to get it off the shaft. I have a buddy that runs a trans shop down the road, I'm going to see if he has some extra ones tomorrow.
April 25, 2021, 09:14 PM
rusty
i left mine off ,not in use ect


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April 26, 2021, 05:36 PM
David Covey
quote:
Originally posted by rusty:
i left mine off ,not in use ect


I always use them, I freshened an FTI or Hughes and it didn't have one on it. It always worked. But I put one on when I did it. Just because.

So I would guess it isn't really necessary..
I think it would help support the end of the input.

Dave


"It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance." -Thomas Sowell
April 26, 2021, 05:51 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by David Covey:
quote:
Originally posted by rusty:
i left mine off ,not in use ect


I always use them, I freshened an FTI or Hughes and it didn't have one on it. It always worked. But I put one on when I did it. Just because.

So I would guess it isn't really necessary..
I think it would help support the end of the input.

Dave


Drum. It's necessary or the bushing wouldn't be there from GM.
April 28, 2021, 06:28 AM
TH383
quote:
Originally posted by David Covey:
quote:
Originally posted by rusty:
i left mine off ,not in use ect


I always use them, I freshened an FTI or Hughes and it didn't have one on it. It always worked. But I put one on when I did it. Just because.

So I would guess it isn't really necessary..
I think it would help support the end of the input.

Dave


same here Dave. transfered parts out of a hughes into a new case for a guy and it wasnt in there.


April 28, 2021, 08:25 AM
rusty
quote:
Drum. It's necessary or the bushing wouldn't be there from GM.

on my first stock tranny converted to race ,i left out several gm parts


honesty is the best policy,insanity is a better deffense
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April 28, 2021, 09:00 AM
David Covey
quote:
Originally posted by rusty:
quote:
Drum. It's necessary or the bushing wouldn't be there from GM.

on my first stock tranny converted to race ,i left out several gm parts



LOL.. Me too.. I no longer own a power glide. But I do have a two speed transmission...lol

Dave


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April 28, 2021, 09:12 AM
David Covey
I get kinda stupid when it comes to building stuff. Most times I can't afford to do everything all at one time but eventually get to it.

Here is my latest "improvement" Not saying it helps just saying it is an improvement.With this I think the only bushings left in the trans would be the front pump, front drum, and the bushing in the planet carrier the input goes into. Just about all of them have now been replaced with a bearing.

Sun Gear Bearing Kit

I check out Sonnax every so often to see what is offered. I do know their accumulator kit made a big difference in the way the band looks on mine at tear down.

Dave


"It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance." -Thomas Sowell
April 28, 2021, 09:28 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by David Covey:
I get kinda stupid when it comes to building stuff. Most times I can't afford to do everything all at one time but eventually get to it.

Here is my latest "improvement" Not saying it helps just saying it is an improvement.With this I think the only bushings left in the trans would be the front pump, front drum, and the bushing in the planet carrier the input goes into. Just about all of them have now been replaced with a bearing.

Sun Gear Bearing Kit

I check out Sonnax every so often to see what is offered. I do know their accumulator kit made a big difference in the way the band looks on mine at tear down.

Dave


Are you using a red or purple servo kit ? Ratio or Super Servo?
April 28, 2021, 04:50 PM
chasracer
I'm leaning towards not putting it back in - bothers me a bit that it was stuck in the middle of the input shaft.

I have a BTE case and now I'm fighting getting my compression tool to stay in place so I can get the reverse clutch set out. Thinking about cutting a piece of angle iron to wedge between the forks so they'll stop popping out.
April 28, 2021, 07:17 PM
rusty
quote:
I have a BTE case and now I'm fighting getting my compression tool to stay in place so I can get the reverse clutch set out. Thinking about cutting a piece of angle iron to wedge between the forks so they'll stop popping out.

i used one at st louis borrowed from a friend,had the same issue untill i figured out there is a cross piece that goes in at the bottom.lol i wondered what all those extra pieces were in the kit


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April 28, 2021, 08:44 PM
topfuel
https://www.tsr-racing.com/too...ring-compressor.html I bought this tool from TSR, it works from inside the case when removing rear pressure plate, and woks very well.
April 28, 2021, 09:02 PM
rusty
thats a good one top the one i borrowed had long spring like fingers that went down and fit in the groove


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