Bracket Talk
Holding Numbers

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October 29, 2024, 08:12 AM
B KING
Holding Numbers
I don't like polls, but an opportunity rose on Class Racer. So, I decided to start one. It's interesting to see how the results are shaping up when class racers are bracket racing. Kind of curious how it plays out on DRR.<BR><BR>I chose, Use all the holds .01-.06 & above. <BR><BR>2BKING<BR> <img src="https://www.allsmileys.com/files/big-smileys/88.gif" alt="Relaxing" width="160" height="160"><!--graemlin::chill:-->Do you guys hold numbers when picking a dial? Pick the best answer that describes your strategy.I don't hold/try to dial honestHold .01-.02Hold .03-.04Hold .05-.06Hold .06 & aboveUse all the holds .01-.06 & above


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
October 29, 2024, 11:35 AM
Yellow Ticket
Depends on the car next to me.
October 29, 2024, 11:54 AM
Ken MacNicol
To many variables
October 29, 2024, 12:43 PM
markemark
^^^^^^ Both of those
October 29, 2024, 01:07 PM
RPROGAS
quote:
^^^^^^ Both of those


Bob
October 29, 2024, 02:10 PM
2doggs
Some days I always hold, except when I don't. Other days, I never hold unless I do.


Why do you ask, 2doggs racing??????
October 29, 2024, 04:13 PM
B KING
It's not that difficult. You can look at the poll as you don't hold, or you hold. The 1st choice is you don't hold. The last choice is you hold. The choices in between are fillers.

The class racers figured it out on their forum. Currently the 60 members that have replied:

41.67% don't hold

30% hold .02

11.67% hold .06 & above/more

Currently on DRR it appears with 8 votes:

63% hold .06 & above/more

I used the most significant percentages from the polls.

2BKING
Relaxing


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
October 29, 2024, 04:30 PM
B KING
This is my view on holding when I dial. When the subject comes up, I'm always willing to share that I always try to hold. Most racers can't understand why I share that.

I hold anywhere from .01-.06 on a consistent basis & have held more on some occasions. I primarily use the throttle to get rid of what I'm holding & very rarely use the brakes.

Below is a recent time slip where we both were holding. The right lane is an accomplished Stock Eliminator racer & a very accomplished bracket racer in his bracket car. The below slip is one of the reasons why I hold. I'm positive if I would have not held/dialed honest. I would have lost that round. I would have run a 9.034 @ around 150 mph if I ran it out.

I had gotten rid of most of what I was holding using the throttle around the 1000'. I was planning for him to spot drop hard using his brakes. I ended up using my brakes slightly when he spot dropped.

2BKING
Relaxing




1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
October 29, 2024, 05:19 PM
racerdude2054
How’s the car? How am I that day? If car isn’t consistent and I am on the tree, I need to hold and wheel race. If car is consistent and I can’t hit the tree, then I need to hold to disguise my lights and make sure I burn numbers.

How much? depends who I am running. I want to get to 15mph or less in difference between myself and my opponent. I also don’t want to give up the mph advantage if I start with that.
October 29, 2024, 07:49 PM
imakehp
I used to race years ago.......


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Dave



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October 30, 2024, 07:46 AM
Curly1
Here in Texas and 5 State area all bracket racing is 1/8 mile so I generally like to hold .02. If we were able to run 1/4 mile I may consider more.

Do not do same thing every time and may make some changes in game plan depending on situation. There are times when I will dial honest.


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October 30, 2024, 10:19 AM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
bracket racing is 1/8 mile so I generally like to hold .02. If we were able to run 1/4 mile I may consider more.


Our track is primarily a 1/4-mile track, but we do have some 1/8th mile races & I prefer them!

I used to hold more in the 1/4-mile than the 1/8th mile. Roughly 5 years ago I started working on holding more in the 1/8th than the 1/4.

In my hold testing both in time runs & racing. I get rid of ET in many different areas of the track. I've held some STUPID hold numbers & made them work while racing. This wasn't always the case when I started holding testing 15-20 years ago.

IMO, holding has really stepped up my strategy game & has made me a more successful racer.

2BKING
Relaxing


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
October 31, 2024, 06:57 AM
TheBlueTruck
Who holds on purpose? I'm just too lazy to dial my own chit. Big Grin


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October 31, 2024, 09:59 AM
Bruce Williams
quote:
Originally posted by imakehp:
I used to race years ago.......


Dave, if you want to race its time to move. You and I are getting closer to the end of the racing game.


Bruce Lee Cool

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
October 31, 2024, 11:12 AM
Al Alguire
Being a faster .90 guy in my category I just follow the other guyRazz


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October 31, 2024, 12:17 PM
CURTIS REED
Buncha cheatin sandbaggers. Laughing Hard



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October 31, 2024, 01:38 PM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by Al Alguire:
Being a faster .90 guy in my category I just follow the other guyRazz


Being one of the quicker & faster guys in Pro, I follow the other guys/ladies. While still holding numbers. Big Grin

2BKING
Relaxing


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
October 31, 2024, 03:10 PM
imakehp
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Williams:
quote:
Originally posted by imakehp:
I used to race years ago.......


Dave, if you want to race it’s time to move. You and I are getting closer to the end of the racing game.
. Bruce I wish I could get my family to move out of this ****hole state, but they just roll their eyes when I start ranting about quality of life. Or more accurately the lack of it in Calif.


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Dave



F J B

October 31, 2024, 03:16 PM
Bruce Williams
quote:
Originally posted by imakehp:
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Williams:
quote:
Originally posted by imakehp:
I used to race years ago.......


Dave, if you want to race it’s time to move. You and I are getting closer to the end of the racing game.
. Bruce I wish I could get my family to move out of this ****hole state, but they just roll their eyes when I start ranting about quality of life. Or more accurately the lack of it in Calif.


Dave, who besides your wife is there with you? You have children still at home?


Bruce Lee Cool

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
October 31, 2024, 06:09 PM
smokinjeff
I usually hold a rabbits foot but sometimes I need the whole rabbit !!!


Jeff McClure