swappjng to a bolt together that should be 150-200 tighter. Trans swap going to a two piece case, full rollerize with an aluminum valve body and swapping from Hoosier's BR3 to the C1550 which weigh 1 lb. more each otherwise the specs are the same except for compound.
After all this it will probably run slower. This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1320racer,
April 22, 2021, 08:54 PM
racerdude2054
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer: swappjng to a bolt together that should be 150-200 tighter. Trans swap going to a two piece case, full rollerize with an aluminum valve body and swapping from Hoosier's BR3 to the C1550 which weigh 1 lb. more each otherwise the specs are the same except for compound.
After all this it will probably run slower.
How much lighter you think the converter is? What rpm did motor make Peak torque and hp on the dyno?
April 22, 2021, 09:00 PM
1320racer
the converter weighs exactly the same as the one it's replacing.
from 7300-7500 HP varies 5 and from 5700-6400 torque varies 6 ft/lbs.
April 22, 2021, 09:07 PM
Mike Rietow
4.10 gear is on the way.
Gotta burn some fuel first, looking for a tire that'll grow more, and a stator that'll achieve close to zero slip.
April 22, 2021, 09:10 PM
1320racer
if you only had a clue! Now hurry along mikey not interested in your critique until YOU have a dragster that can run with mine!
April 22, 2021, 09:29 PM
racerdude2054
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer: the converter weighs exactly the same as the one it's replacing.
from 7300-7500 HP varies 5 and from 5700-6400 torque varies 6 ft/lbs.
Keep us posted, good real world data on this thread
April 22, 2021, 09:31 PM
1320racer
I will, more to come
April 22, 2021, 11:26 PM
Mike Rietow
Does anyone know of a tire which measures 106 roll on the starting line, but measures 116 rollout at the stripe?
Ed needs a set, so he can cross at 7600 rpm in conjunction with a converter with the capacity to slip 3%, 7600 rpm.
How much fuel will Ed burn, before it dawns on him, it won't happen?
Ring ring ring... Hy is this JEGS.... Yes it is.... Hi this is Ed, send me a 4.10 ring and pinion for a 9" Ford.....
April 23, 2021, 05:37 AM
1320racer
AGAIN!
Fucing clueless idiot that ain’t got shyt, ain’t built shyt and ain’t done shyt worth talking about that thinks he knows using an online calculator.
Tell us, what RPM am I crossing at now and how much my converter is slipping at the stripe or STFU!
You can't because you don't have a clue.
More real world data about my car, my combo coming later this weekend.
April 23, 2021, 07:06 AM
Mike Rietow
Ed's been blowing up all the online converter slip calculators.
I don't use a online calculator Ed, I know the equation,by heart. It's not perfect, but it's darn close.
Ya ain't doing nothing impressive anyway, I ran Lynch on the ladder at Immoklee winter race way back in 2008. He was dial'd 4.36 n/a.
Yours shyt's a turd anyway.
April 23, 2021, 07:10 AM
Mike Rietow
Let me know when you find a sbc all steel Nova 3200 lbs on a 10 x28 to dip in the 5's n/a Brodix or AfR cylinder heads.
You won't find one.
April 23, 2021, 08:02 AM
329L
Ill say it again, slip isnt what people think it is. 0% slip at the stripe is NOT always the fastest down the track, especially naturally aspirated, and especially in a bracket style car.
Jeremiah Hall
April 23, 2021, 08:27 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by 329L: Ill say it again, slip isnt what people think it is. 0% slip at the stripe is NOT always the fastest down the track, especially naturally aspirated, and especially in a bracket style car.
Nobody has made a case for less slip is better. The case we are discussing however, is pertaining to the latent potential for rpm.
In the case were are discussing, Ed's 648 cubic inch engine, the limiting factor for rpm is piston speed, or more specifically the expectation of windowing the block, if tolerances by its owner for piston speed, aren't low.
They're trying to find away around changing the gear. The only successful path is a converter with the capacity to slip 0%, coupled to a tire that measures 116 rollout at the stripe, or in other words 7600 rpm's.
April 23, 2021, 08:41 AM
329L
There isnt any problem with where Ed is turning that engine. ANd what Ed will prolly find is that a converter that is a little tighter wont be faster, unless he is in mine shaft air. The only time i have seen a looser converter be slower is when the converter was just wrong to begin with.
Jeremiah Hall
April 23, 2021, 08:47 AM
Yellow Ticket
Hey lets all compare things in 2021 to things that happened in 2008!
April 23, 2021, 09:01 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by 329L: There isnt any problem with where Ed is turning that engine. ANd what Ed will prolly find is that a converter that is a little tighter wont be faster, unless he is in mine shaft air. The only time i have seen a looser converter be slower is when the converter was just wrong to begin with.
Fair enough, how many rpm's are tolerable? 7700? 7800? 8000? 8200? 8400?
This isn't pro mod, I'm fairly certain he hasn't got six of em in the trailer, lined up.
April 23, 2021, 09:25 AM
Mike Rietow
There is one thing Ed does comprehend about drag racing, it's also the only reason this car has a 4.29 gear in it.
All the big gains are made early in the run. Which also translates, they're lost there.
It could also be Ed is lying, he's been know to do that quite often. It could be that the car is getting a 4.10 gear and a bolt together, in order to find a stator which will replace the added torque multiplication at the back tire, of the 4.29 gear, with additional torque multiplication below stall. So that the 60ft doesn't slow up substantially due to the 4.10 gear change. But now we're getting into things Ed doesn't comprehend, so I'm sure BTE is walking Ed through this, if indeed it is the case.
April 23, 2021, 09:47 AM
Mike Rietow
Pretty interesting I think. The most interesting thing about drag racing, is drag racing.
Do as much of it while ya can, there's a Lefty boot trying stomp out Americana.
April 23, 2021, 09:52 AM
seabass
quote:
Originally posted by 329L: There isnt any problem with where Ed is turning that engine. ANd what Ed will prolly find is that a converter that is a little tighter wont be faster, unless he is in mine shaft air. The only time i have seen a looser converter be slower is when the converter was just wrong to begin with.
i agree
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April 23, 2021, 09:54 AM
seabass
quote:
Originally posted by 329L: Ill say it again, slip isnt what people think it is. 0% slip at the stripe is NOT always the fastest down the track, especially naturally aspirated, and especially in a bracket style car.
Exactly, I had my setup at0% at one time and didn’t gain anything....even had driveshaft pass the engine, gained nothing
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