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On anoither thrread it was mentioned simplifying car. Biggest issue I have in car is getting belts tight. First always PIA in FEd I am told.

I have no issue with shoulder straps. Lap belts will not sinch after fastened in. They are pull up to tighten type. The problem seems to be angle makes the buckle grip belt tight. Not bad at times that we hope never to see.

Wondering if any others have had a similar issue and what cured it. I have adjusted the belts hkaf dozen times so as to relocate buckle to different locations, but none have freed it up so I can sinch it. IDEAs?

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Someone back east or at least east of me told me how to solve this. First of all you only need one adjuster. Mine is on the right side belt.

You don't need an adjuster on the left side, simply remove it and use only the belt itself along with the buckle attachment. BTW, this only works if you have the wrap around style of belts. If you have the snap in type you have to get the manufacturer to modify it so that the snap latch is attached to the belt with no adjuster present. In other words not two pieces.

The whole idea is that you will have to mess with the belt till you get it where it is "fairly" tight when clipped to the crotch belt. That way it holds itself in place while you attach the right hand belt that still has the adjuster.

Now you only have to pull up on one side to tighten your lap belt and the c-ockpit isn't as crowded as it was with both adjusters in your lap.

I have been doing it this way for years, still can't remember who told me but I really appreciated it. Not sure if I was clear on the explanation but the whole idea is to just do away with one adjuster and attach the belt portion directly to the frame.

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Someone back east or at least east of me told me how to solve this. First of all you only need one adjuster. Mine is on the right side belt.

You don't need an adjuster on the left side, simply remove it and use only the belt itself along with the buckle attachment. BTW, this only works if you have the wrap around style of belts. If you have the snap in type you have to get the manufacturer to modify it so that the snap latch is attached to the belt with no adjuster present. In other words not two pieces.

The whole idea is that you will have to mess with the belt till you get it where it is "fairly" tight when clipped to the crotch belt. That way it holds itself in place while you attach the right hand belt that still has the adjuster.

Now you only have to pull up on one side to tighten your lap belt and the c-ockpit isn't as crowded as it was with both adjusters in your lap.

I have been doing it this way for years, still can't remember who told me but I really appreciated it. Not sure if I was clear on the explanation but the whole idea is to just do away with one adjuster and attach the belt portion directly to the frame.

Good luck!


Pretty much what I have done so far. One side stays same place ,loosen other and sinch it down once fastened together. The issue is it still not tight as would like it and locks up when pulling belt more. I then just pull shoulder straps as tight as can to remove some of slack in lap belts. Would like to get to work as should w/o relocating holes in seat which means building new seat as forming is huge PIA.




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After rereading Cashflow's reply. The both adjusters in lap part may be what the problem. Mine are down on side bear seat pan. While have moved maybe not far enough up. Will try moving them way up in the seat more.




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to understand the problem are ends on the belt that you pull pointing towards the steering wheel or to back of seat


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If he did try dominos, they'd break or leak or have no dots on them and he'd have to make 6 posts about it.....LOL
 
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to understand the problem are ends on the belt that you pull pointing towards the steering wheel or to back of seat


pull up towards steering wheel.




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if you cant pull that tight the belts are defective or the tails are too short.i put both hands on the ends and pull untill the knob is centered and then tighten the other side.


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Not sure howthey could be defective. Thinner than mst I have had or seem to be.

Cashflows comment about the adjuster in lap might just be issue. Mine have always been down near the seat and at the angle that might be locking belt down at a point. Moved them up higher and seemed better. Going to move again tomorrow had a party to attend tonight and not enough time to mess with a lot.




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i watched a guy that used to race my class.he had his crew guy use a hook and pulled lap belts really tight with the hook


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i watched a guy that used to race my class.he had his crew guy use a hook and pulled lap belts really tight with the hook


I thought that was how all you TopFuel guys did it?



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you mean top fool lol


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i watched a guy that used to race my class.he had his crew guy use a hook and pulled lap belts really tight with the hook


I have a hook I use to tighten Lil Brother in when running the A/Fuel car. The problem there is he is so skinny we pull till get to stitching and still not tight enough to suit him. The too skinny has never been the problem here.LOL

Having two old guys that have both had shoulder surgery in last year is not a big help either. That would be driver right shoulder and the crew guy's left shoulder.

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I do not understand what your problem is. I use the Pro1 Safety belts with quick release adjusters on shoulder straps. Now I do have the click type latch so I can push them in and click them one at a time and not have to do them all same time. Do you have the old style flip latch type?
For the crotch and lap belts I set them and leave them. I get in raise the crotch strap and hook up left lap belt, then I hook up right one, it is a little tight but I can do it no problem and I have both shoulders messed up.
Then I put on my helmet with the HANS on it and as I hook up shoulder straps I hook up arm restraints. Then I tighten heck out of shoulder straps. Then I take up slack in arm restraints.

But the Crotch and lap belts I never have to adjust or fight with. Set it and forget it and I like my belts tight.


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WSell crotch strap stays. Lap belts I have never been able to fasten if tight enough. If crap happens I want lap belts holding me instead of cratch strap catching me. Not into singing soprano.

It is not big problem but one that was just on mind about things I wanted to correct and just do away with the wrestling match trying to get belt tight before run.

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