My 02 Duramax still runs great. As does my 91 Silverado. I don’t tow a race car trailer or a fifth wheel any longer, but no chance I get rid of either.

We did order a new Ford back in August. 2022 Maverick Hybrid. I don’t think it will tow much but will haul us all over the east coast for baseball. Hoping it is here around March. My son turns 16 in a few months, I’m thinking about getting him one too.

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Originally posted by "The Bender":
Lawn mowers at a GMC dealer?

GMC=Grounds Maintenance Company?

I actually own a mower shop and was shocked. I asked how does GMC let you be a mower shop also? My truck was in the service bays when I went to see it and yes they had mowers in the same shop for repair. Super nice dealership to deal with.

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Originally posted by Al Alguire:

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My coworker bought a 21 F250 6.7. Doesn't pull anything heavy, a 16' flat bed with a Polaris on it,

If this is the case then he has something seriously wrong with the truck he bought. My F450 is a 6.7, as was the one before it. They have both been back and fourth across the country and few times pulling my 34' trailer loaded with car, tools, parts, golf cart blah blah blah over the rockies with zero issues with power. Out here in the west every time we tow anywhere we have mountains to climb. I can put the cruise on at 70 and have zero issues with al but the highest grades across the rockies.

Yep I only get about 11mpg that way but it is a 4.30 geared truck so the RPM at 70 is a bit high but who cares I can afford it. My 40' deisel pusher gets about 6 doing the same and is a snail over the larger grades dropping to 40-45.

My current truck only runs high 15's here in Vegas at 9200lbs

AS for other vehicles we have plenty .I choose to use my dually as my DD beciase it fits me well, unlike many cars. I have been daily driving a dually since 1998.

One last point I was at the dealership this am for a steering stabilizer TSB. I was offered $92K for my 2019 F450 platinum with 40K miles. Thats above sticker FWIW

Al, I'm pretty sure he is saying that is all that he pulls with it not all it will pull. LOL

Never checked mine towing. Can’t change it so on we go.

Al, I take my truck everywhere! It’s comfortable and I feel safer than in a car.

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Originally posted by T172JR:

I actually own a mower shop and was shocked. I asked how does GMC let you be a mower shop also? My truck was in the service bays when I went to see it and yes they had mowers in the same shop for repair. Super nice dealership to deal with.

I'm glad you had a good experience with Arena Buick/GMC/Cub Cadet. It doesnt matter what direction I'm traveling,that light always turns red! Cool little dealership, cool building and I always look to see what's on the lot. If I'm ever in the market, I'll be calling them first.

Best of luck with it.

I have a 2013 Duramax. And I can tell you when it runs correctly I love it.

But right now its getting the DPF replaced because its bad at 52k miles!!!

Has had both NOx sensors replaced, def heater, and def injector replaced. GM got involved with the truck (I suspect the tech was misdiagnosing the issue, and it was the DPF the whole time).

Long story short I'll be 4,700 in this. And at 52k I just don't really understand why the DPF is bad already. I can't be the only one who doesn't use the truck strictly for towing in the US.

DEF is extremely corrosive so try to keep it full. Nothing good about it!

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Originally posted by BP758:
DEF is extremely corrosive so try to keep it full. Nothing good about it!

I was under the impression that you'd want to keep it more towards the empty side, that way its not sitting in there forever. I was also told not to buy DEF in a jug, but to buy it at a truck stop pump, since the over-the-road trucks blow through it so fast. The theory is it is always fresh.

Am I incorrect in this way of thinking?

Yes, you were told wrong. I have used only Peak’s Blue DEF on my 2015 Duramax from the first fill and the tank gets refilled when it goes into the 400 mile warning sometime and before the 60mph speed restriction and my truck just turned 290,000 miles this morning.

Stick with the *Blue Def* like he said.I am in the Semi repair business. I get calls all the time for Poor Quality Def code and it goes into "De Rate'

Some i can clear, some won't and have to be towed.
Here is a little info for you....

https://www.mcphersonoil.com/h...-def-from-going-bad/

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Originally posted by Holytown:

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Originally posted by BP758:
DEF is extremely corrosive so try to keep it full. Nothing good about it!

I was under the impression that you'd want to keep it more towards the empty side, that way its not sitting in there forever. I was also told not to buy DEF in a jug, but to buy it at a truck stop pump, since the over-the-road trucks blow through it so fast. The theory is it is always fresh.

Am I incorrect in this way of thinking?

How often do you go through it? TD 3550 article says one year shelf life sealed though. I’ve heard less air space less corrosion. Partners Cummins rv really blows through def towing. I have a very good GM internal source. Wondering if those are sealed Def caps or vented? I’ll find out.

An exhaust after-treatment system associated with a diesel engine includes a diesel exhaust fluid storage unit. The storage unit includes a diesel exhaust fluid tank and a vent system coupled to the tank and configured to regulate flow of air into the tank and fluid vapor out of the tank.

Yes i have had to throw a couple gallons out that sat for about 14 months that i didn't use. Was no longer clear.

An old friend stopped by a few weeks back. He bought a used 2019 Ram 2500 cummins in 2020 and has enjoyed it. He does not do any of his own work because he chooses not to, not because he can't (he can). The oil changes all went smoothly at the Ram dealer. At 50,000 miles it was time for first major service. They told him that in order to maintain the 100,000 mile warranty on the powertrain that he'd be required to perform the 50,000 mile major service which entails the DPF among other things. They quoted him close to $2500.

He bought another truck. He wasn't paying $2500 to have his truck serviced and I can say, I don't blame him. IF what he told me was true, and I don't doubt him based on his nature. I've known him for years and years. He's the one that doesn't need a diesel. He needs a gas burner. He wanted a 3/4 ton diesel because he has Napoleon syndrome. He is now in a GM 4 cylinder half ton and so far he says he likes it.

On expense. We (company I worked for) had an early 2007 build 3500 Duramax. Purchased CPO from a dealer, at 90,000 miles as I recall. Parts that had failed and were replaced: Fuel line, alternator, high side fuel pump, turbocharger assembly, transmission, all 8 injectors, 2 wire harnesses, transmission crossmember that BROKE (which I felt was kind of odd?), drive shaft, 2 sets of brakes (it never moved unless it had a trailer on it), rotors, one set of tires (normal wear item), another fuel line, and the rest was normal maintenance. Dollar amount was just shy of $20,000 in repairs not counting maintenance. They replaced the truck in 2019 with a new Ford, got $8400 out of the duramax, with 118,000 miles on it.

Once your warranty is up, you might be wise to budget for repairs.

Talking to my boss today, he's got a ford with a 6.7. Been a good truck, with very very few repairs needed-mostly just $200 oil changes (he pays someone to do it). It's got over 130,000 miles on it. The dealer said it's been showing signs of DPF issues, and a replacement is going to set him back about $3600 just for the part, not counting labor. That's hard to swallow all at once, at least for me anyway. I told him based on what I know of that dealer I don't know if I'd believe it or not, and maybe best to get a second opinion elsewhere.

those alone make me want to dump mine and go back to an old gas burner. I will keep my old 7.3 as long as I can but I won't replace it with another diesel for sure.

A dont get some of these prices for sure .I had to replace the DPF tank on my 1 F450, cost me $300for the tank and took maybe 20 minutes to replace. It needed to be replaced because the "gauge" quit working.

I’d put off buying new or used till supply side is better. Paying MSRP is bad, paying MSRP plus is nuts. Don’t be nuts

Prices are indeed crazy. I just sold my 2000 silverado gas with a snow plow for $10,500. And I had people lined up to look at it.

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Originally posted by adv ET 266:
I’d put off buying new or used till supply side is better. Paying MSRP is bad, paying MSRP plus is nuts. Don’t be nuts

I agree, I'm going to get the opportunity to buy a nice diesel truck in 2-3 years, and I even know the color. A racer buddy/neighbor of mine is so proud of the truck he just bought. He'll get tired of the mortgage sized payment after long and he will sell it, probably after supply meets demand and he will take a beating on it.

I can't justify how people would buy a 90K truck if they aren't working out of it/or a tax write off. 90k plus interest to roll up the the track to "look" like they have money.

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Originally posted by adv ET 266:
I’d put off buying new or used till supply side is better. Paying MSRP is bad, paying MSRP plus is nuts. Don’t be nuts

Eh... I wouldn't mind paying MSRP if we could only do it direct. I hate the car buying experience. Im ready to move to the days of ordering online directly through the mfg and having it delivered. I think Tesla is on to something with this, and hopefully states get out of the way and allow it to happen.

We essentially did that with our new (still waiting on it) Ford Maverick. Ordered it via email from a dealer in Pa. If not for regulations preventing it we could have done the same thing direct with Ford.

PS... If loan terms hadn't gotten out of hand cars and trucks would still be reasonably priced anyway. Same with college, but that is a different topic....

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If not for regulations preventing it we could have done the same thing direct with Ford.

That represents a sizeable association with some pretty deep lobbing pockets. My guess is any significant change will be slow at best.

I recently ordered and received a new 2022 Ram 1500 locally because I needed a new truck and with little on the lots wasn’t buying something used or new with options missing or not wanting.

Had I been able to order and wait, I could have purchased for 2% under invoice from a high volume dealer in another state. I believe the deals are out there if you know where to look for them.