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Delay Box Racing...

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March 21, 2024, 10:51 AM
fuzzy dice
Delay Box Racing...
I am going to begin top bulb racing this weekend for the first time ever in my life..been bottom bulbing for 25 years..I have an S-10 running 6.30's in the 1/8...

I will most likely be the slower vehicle almost all the time..I know to put both dials in if I am the faster car but what do I put in the box when I am the slower car so crosstalk works properly?...

Oh yeah, I have a K&R Pro cube delay box for what it's worth...thanks..
March 21, 2024, 10:55 AM
Bob Payton
either 0.00 or your dial 6.30


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March 21, 2024, 11:26 AM
markemark
Like suggested prior, using 0.00 for OppDial-In is good.

I dial close to same as you and prefer to set the OppDial-In to 6.00. This way I only need to adjust the last two digits if running someone slower. And if they dial in the 7’s moving the first number to the left on the decimal is only one entry.

Be advised, when returning to the pits after running someone slower, adjusting the OppDial-In to the prior setting of less than your dial is wise. Many racers have been caught with incorrect numbers in the OPPDial-In from the prior run.
March 21, 2024, 02:09 PM
TomR
If I'm the slower car (which I normally am, are, am whatever) I put my dial on both side of the cube.


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March 21, 2024, 02:41 PM
Nim Rod
I usually just 0 the other side out when getting chased. I also don't normally put the opponents dial-in in my box until after my burnout. I've had people lie/change it in the staging lanes so I just read the board when we come around for the run as I know it will be correct. It's the last thing I double check before I stage.


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March 21, 2024, 03:39 PM
Goob
I put my dial in and leave the other 0000.

Then I make it REAL easy by putting the big circled "N" on with my dial, no crosstalk for me.
I highly recommend doing that.
I cross over so rarely, it just throws me off mentally, so I don't participate.
I don't like it (crosstalk) anyway.


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March 21, 2024, 04:35 PM
Big Steve
When I am the slower car I always put my dial on both sides but that's just me
March 21, 2024, 06:51 PM
Lenny5160
I would suggest always leaving 00.00 in the opponent side of the box unless you have a slower opponent.

I’ve seen it happen a few times where a racer would be in the right lane and then enter their opponent’s dial on the left side of the box. If you always keep the right side at 00.00, it is clear where the opponent dial should go. I mean, beyond that side of the box being labeled for the opponent’s dial.


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March 21, 2024, 09:19 PM
fuzzy dice
OK...thanks folks...this is a big help..looks like all zero's or my dial on the opponents side is the ticket..
March 22, 2024, 08:00 PM
183N
Suppose it kind of depends on the box…

With my mega 450 I press clear for opponent dial so that’s zeros. When I drive my wife’s car which has a K&R box, it’s usually quicker to just match the dials with the up/down switches.

As long as opponent dial is the same or lower than your dial(in the box), the delay isn’t doing anything.
March 23, 2024, 08:42 PM
AlkyIROC
I always put 000 for my opponent and just go off my own light. Never correct for a slow reaction time. You just want enough delay that you can't red light.


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March 23, 2024, 09:36 PM
TonyB6255
If you are ever the faster car and cross over, make sure you zero out the opponent before you get out of the car. You don't want to forget that for your next run if you are the slower car.

It will seem like an eternity staring at the green light waiting for your car to leave.
March 26, 2024, 09:24 AM
fuzzy dice
I made my maiden voyage last weekend at Gainesville...top is very different than bottom..lol..I ran dragsters both times in elims..put my dial on both sides of the box...worked fine..I missed the tree with a 70 and 54 light but it is a start after 23 years of bottom bulb racing..gotta practice leaving off the top bulb for sure...that delay got my attention as well..apparently a little guy with a ballpeen hammer was hiding behind me and whacked me in the head when the truck launched...lol..
March 26, 2024, 01:00 PM
Goob
quote:
Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I made my maiden voyage last weekend at Gainesville...top is very different than bottom..lol..I ran dragsters both times in elims..put my dial on both sides of the box...worked fine..I missed the tree with a 70 and 54 light but it is a start after 23 years of bottom bulb racing..gotta practice leaving off the top bulb for sure...that delay got my attention as well..apparently a little guy with a ballpeen hammer was hiding behind me and whacked me in the head when the truck launched...lol..


Tree comes quick, especially if you stage last.

It's a struggle....I raced top and bottom at the same time for a couple of years, it can get hectic trying to remember which lamp to hit. Laughing Hard

Practice tree is your friend for a while.


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March 27, 2024, 11:26 AM
ski_dwn_it
Why not just get in the habit of always putting in the correct opponents dial?

Makes you pay attention and think about what the race should look like as it develops .
March 28, 2024, 09:15 AM
fuzzy dice
quote:
Originally posted by ski_dwn_it:
Why not just get in the habit of always putting in the correct opponents dial?

Makes you pay attention and think about what the race should look like as it develops .


Hey ski...I haven't talked to you since my vette days...lol...I will look into putting my opponents dial in all the time...I need a bit of practice to be sure for this top bulb deal...
March 28, 2024, 09:24 AM
vetman
Get a practice tree and wear it out-it helps


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March 28, 2024, 01:17 PM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by Goob:
quote:
Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I made my maiden voyage last weekend at Gainesville...top is very different than bottom..lol..I ran dragsters both times in elims..put my dial on both sides of the box...worked fine..I missed the tree with a 70 and 54 light but it is a start after 23 years of bottom bulb racing..gotta practice leaving off the top bulb for sure...that delay got my attention as well..apparently a little guy with a ballpeen hammer was hiding behind me and whacked me in the head when the truck launched...lol..


Tree comes quick, especially if you stage last.

It's a struggle....I raced top and bottom at the same time for a couple of years, it can get hectic trying to remember which lamp to hit. Laughing Hard

Practice tree is your friend for a while.


A couple times a year I race 6.0 index and Footbrake at the same race. The first few times I hit the .400 tree it took me a minute to realize I was going from the stage light to the bottom bulb. LOL No wonder I sucked for a little bit. Stage light to top amber is much better. I have been a foot feeder so long it just feels wrong.

Did manage to make the finals in both at the same race though. Seabass and Rusty were there for that race. It rained as soon as they called us for the finals and we ended up splitting. Pretty good pay day.



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March 28, 2024, 05:40 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I made my maiden voyage last weekend at Gainesville...top is very different than bottom..lol..I ran dragsters both times in elims..put my dial on both sides of the box...worked fine..I missed the tree with a 70 and 54 light but it is a start after 23 years of bottom bulb racing..gotta practice leaving off the top bulb for sure...that delay got my attention as well..apparently a little guy with a ballpeen hammer was hiding behind me and whacked me in the head when the truck launched...lol..


Competing in a class that mixes dragsters with door cars from the start is a tough deal and will be an expensive learning experience imho. If they are allowed to double it’ll be 2x as painful.

After your 1st rd loss, did you enter the buyback round?
March 29, 2024, 07:52 AM
ski_dwn_it
quote:
Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
quote:
Originally posted by ski_dwn_it:
Why not just get in the habit of always putting in the correct opponents dial?

Makes you pay attention and think about what the race should look like as it develops .


Hey ski...I haven't talked to you since my vette days...lol...I will look into putting my opponents dial in all the time...I need a bit of practice to be sure for this top bulb deal...


I'm still wrenching and refining mine. This winter was a major overhaul of just about everything.

I go from bottom to top nearly every race. Don't make it harder than it needs to be. Your letting go on the first indication of light. When I started the top was far easier after years of bottom. And it made me concentrate more on the bottom. Usually have to choose which class every year for bracket finals because I make it in both. Race both as much as you can and just have fun.