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controlling Methanol corrosion

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April 23, 2021, 01:09 PM
Larry Woodfin
controlling Methanol corrosion
Racers,

What are the latest thoughts and products to minimize Methanol corrosion in carbs and fuel systems?


Larry Woodfin



April 23, 2021, 01:18 PM
Lenny5160
Klotz KL-107 Uplon lube, one quart per drum of fuel, and don’t worry about it.

That’s my process.


Tony Leonard
April 23, 2021, 01:22 PM
TOP38
Power Plus works very good.
April 23, 2021, 02:22 PM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
Klotz KL-107 Uplon lube, one quart per drum of fuel, and don’t worry about it.

That’s my process.


exact same for me



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April 23, 2021, 02:29 PM
Mike Rietow
Controlling methanol corrosion? What's that? Have they made aluminum fuel cells mandatory, or something? Confused
April 23, 2021, 02:38 PM
WHOMPWHOMP
I’m new to alky...the klotz was awful for me..switched to liquid power an zero problems
April 23, 2021, 04:08 PM
Big Steve
quote:
Originally posted by WHOMPWHOMP:
I’m new to alky...the klotz was awful for me..switched to liquid power an zero problems


Wow I have been using Klotz for 10 years and generally only 16oz per drum, thats 1/2 the recommended amount and I have never had any corrosion at all and that includes my aluminum tank and Enderle barrel valve on my TD.
April 23, 2021, 04:20 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
Klotz KL-107 Uplon lube, one quart per drum of fuel, and don’t worry about it. That’s my process.


Exactly the same for over 10 years. Nothing better. Smells like burning rubber. You’ll like it.
April 23, 2021, 04:22 PM
BG7X77
Ok....school me.....I have considered alcohol. I have an aluminum cell and thought it was a must I remove it and convert to a plastic Jaz or equivalent. ...BIG STEVE says he hasn't had an issue and runs aluminum.....thoughts?


BG
April 23, 2021, 04:35 PM
wideopen231
Have always had aluminum fuel cells and never had issue with alky.




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April 23, 2021, 06:49 PM
Curly1
Only problem I have had with corrosion was from cheap hose and fittings. Still I do use a top lube.


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April 23, 2021, 07:50 PM
rusty
larry in your neighborhood tell them you want their synthetic lube in your barrell ,it works.i suggest draining bowls.it makes the floats last longer
.the klotz synthetic is just as good


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April 23, 2021, 10:20 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by BG7X77:
Ok....school me.....I have considered alcohol. I have an aluminum cell and thought it was a must I remove it and convert to a plastic Jaz or equivalent. ...BIG STEVE says he hasn't had an issue and runs aluminum.....thoughts?


You're looking for problems, unless the drain the fuel.

What are Russell fittings made of?



April 23, 2021, 10:34 PM
WHOMPWHOMP
Draining the fuel how often if you race weekly..
April 23, 2021, 10:38 PM
Mike Rietow
If you want to do a alky carb BG, I have the main body you can barely see on the right, collecting dust, I'll donate to the cause.

I upgraded to the billet center you see in 2017. You pay the shipping I'll send it to BLP for ya.

It's what you want sbc,750 cfm main body, 850 billet base plate.

That and a belt pump.



April 23, 2021, 10:44 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by WHOMPWHOMP:
Draining the fuel how often if you race weekly..


Weekly
April 23, 2021, 11:21 PM
Lenny5160
I switched my Nova to alky in 2000. I’ve never changed a hose or fitting. Same BLP belt pump.

Every winter the carb comes off, is drained and gets new floats. The pump is capped with fuel in it.

If the engine comes out, the pump is removed and filled with ATF. The cell and other fuel lines remain full of alky.

I didn’t run my dragster at all last year, but the cell and Terminator system is all full of alky and ready to go from 2 years ago.


Tony Leonard
April 24, 2021, 06:38 AM
ski_dwn_it
Been running alcohol for years and zero corrosion issues in my car or the two jr dragster. No top end lube.

Don't drain it from carb week to week or anything special. I'm winter take off carb. Blow it out good and spray with wd-40. That is for all cars.

Never a drop of corrosion.

Fuel pump magnafuel 500 looks like it's brand new. Been sitting in alcohol since it was installed.

Apd carb on mine. Just repeated 3 runs within .0007 sec in 1/4.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dqw6sM6i4E7zSxqH8
Kids jr varied .012 across 5 runs..2 could be thrown out because it's his first outing of the year and he went a little deep on two getting used to things.

If your getting corrosion you have something in the fuel delivery system causing problems.
April 24, 2021, 08:24 AM
rusty
quote:
Draining the fuel how often if you race weekly..

the only reason i drain fuel is for the floats,these hand made blow thru floats are exspensive and dont have to be very heavy to cause an issue.normal floats dont seem to have as much issues.also i woner if the amount of moisture in the air plays into the corrosion issues


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1.036, 6.16@ 224

April 24, 2021, 08:26 AM
Mike Rietow
The bowls are new 2017. This carb was new in 2007, by 2015 - 16 or so, the bowls had what was like beach sand, on the floor.

When you drain the bowl to preserve the float, there will be residual fuel left on the floor of the bowl which will rot the floor of the bowl.

The bowls which came on this carb weren't coated, Mark at BLP suggested these coated bowls.

I won so many Super Pro bracket races with this carb, it could've had beach sand on the floor of the bowl every other week,and it wouldn't have bothered me.

This carb was in 13 Super Pro finals on 21 entries in 2008 at Sunshine, no other carburetor has ever had a season like that at Sunshine. BLP 850 cfm main 750 base.

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