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Iron Eagle Block starter issues

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August 25, 2020, 09:24 PM
3DRacing
Iron Eagle Block starter issues
I am building a 434 using an Iron Eagle block with a Moroso 21019 oil pan. The problem is the starter is hitting the oil pan. Not the body or solenoid but the mounting plate is hitting the kick out. I can get the outside bolt in but not the inside bolt. The starter needs to come back towards the front of the engine a full bolt hole but it hits the pan. I have tried a power master xs and the Mezeire TS500. If anyone has ran across this problem let me know what the solution was please.
August 25, 2020, 09:48 PM
Mike Rietow
Figure out which starter you can use by cutting the least off the mounting flange.
August 25, 2020, 10:03 PM
3DRacing
Already thought about this. I have the mounting bracket off the TS500 in my work bag now. Going to set it up in the mill at work and mill off what I can. After that I may have to pull the pan and modify it also. It is hitting the full height of the bracket.
August 25, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by Dotsonfirearms:
Already thought about this. I have the mounting bracket off the TS500 in my work bag now. Going to set it up in the mill at work and mill off what I can. After that I may have to pull the pan and modify it also. It is hitting the full height of the bracket.


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August 25, 2020, 10:17 PM
3DRacing
This damn thing has been full of just that. Had to mill the end of the stud girdle off to clear the Star vacuum pump fitting. The Terminator injection scoop tray mount had to be milled to let it go to wide open throttle.
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by Dotsonfirearms:
Already thought about this. I have the mounting bracket off the TS500 in my work bag now. Going to set it up in the mill at work and mill off what I can. After that I may have to pull the pan and modify it also. It is hitting the full height of the bracket.


Only path to take, to get you to the promised land. Do what has to be done.

August 25, 2020, 10:25 PM
Mike Rietow
I hear ya.

If it were easy everyone would be doing it. Smile

Good luck!
August 25, 2020, 11:04 PM
Mike Rietow
Tall or standard deck height op? What's the combo?

Any build photo's?
August 26, 2020, 06:50 AM
3DRacing
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Tall or standard deck height op? What's the combo?

Any build photo's?

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August 26, 2020, 08:10 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by Dotsonfirearms:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Tall or standard deck height op? What's the combo?

Any build photo's?

Tall Deck, Brodix 233 Track 1, Dart Intake, Rons Terminator Alcohol injection, 7/4 Swap custom cam from Bullet, Mahle gas ported dome pistons, scat light weight crank and rods, MSD crank trigger, Star Machine vacuum pump. I do have pictures I will put up when I get time today.



August 26, 2020, 08:13 AM
DragRaceResults
Don't these blocks have a provision for a starter on both sides with no oil filter mount? Or is that just the raised cam version?

Mine has a full kickout pan with starter moved to the other side.



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August 26, 2020, 08:20 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
Don't these blocks have a provision for a starter on both sides with no oil filter mount? Or is that just the raised cam version?

Mine has a full kickout pan with starter moved to the other side.


Yes sir.
August 26, 2020, 08:32 AM
Mike Rietow
Convenience/simplicity depends on the pan.

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August 26, 2020, 08:34 AM
3DRacing
quote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
Don't these blocks have a provision for a starter on both sides with no oil filter mount? Or is that just the raised cam version?

Mine has a full kickout pan with starter moved to the other side.


Yes it has bolt holes for starter on both sides. Already tried that hits the pan on that side as well. I just got done milling off .375 inch on the mount. I will try it out when I get home from work.
August 26, 2020, 07:31 PM
NFC
I had to mill the starter mount with my dart aluminum sbc block to clear the moroso pan also. Its not a big deal and the starter still works on the little m block.
August 26, 2020, 07:58 PM
3DRacing
quote:
Originally posted by NFC:
I had to mill the starter mount with my dart aluminum sbc block to clear the moroso pan also. Its not a big deal and the starter still works on the little m block.


Well it worked perfect. I would post pictures but I have no idea how lol.
August 26, 2020, 08:02 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by Dotsonfirearms:
quote:
Originally posted by NFC:
I had to mill the starter mount with my dart aluminum sbc block to clear the moroso pan also. Its not a big deal and the starter still works on the little m block.


Well it worked perfect. I would post pictures but I have no idea how lol.


Let me know when you establish a IMGUR acct, I'll walk ya though it, or someone here will. It only takes a minute to get a IMGUR acct.

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August 26, 2020, 09:03 PM
Curly1
If I remember right I had to trim some of the aluminum mounting plate back a little to clear on mine to when I ran that pan.
Mine is Iron Eagle 454 SBC Tall deck.


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August 27, 2020, 08:17 AM
3DRacing
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by Dotsonfirearms:
quote:
Originally posted by NFC:
I had to mill the starter mount with my dart aluminum sbc block to clear the moroso pan also. Its not a big deal and the starter still works on the little m block.


Well it worked perfect. I would post pictures but I have no idea how lol.


Let me know when you establish a IMGUR acct, I'll walk ya though it, or someone here will. It only takes a minute to get a IMGUR acct.

This is a set of Brodix T1 233 3.875 stroke 427


I have the IMGUR account set up. At least I think I do
August 27, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mike Rietow
Go to this screen click on new post.



That'll take you to this screen, click choose image



once you choose image click share option and use BBC (forums) to share


August 27, 2020, 08:31 AM
3DRacing
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
Go to this screen click on new image.



That'll take you to this screen, click choose image


Mine looks different. I am using my android phone. I see how to add pictures to IMGUR though