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DRR Sportsman
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What is everyone using for the braided nylon hose and fitting? I am going to replace fuel lines and trans cooler lines. I have the black ends on my fuel lines and it pisses me off how the anodizing turns bronze and looks like crap.

Does anyone use the Jiffy Tite fittings with black nylon hose? I was at a friends last night who said he had trouble with the black nylon -6 pulling out of the Jiffy Tite fittings so he did cooler lines in stainless.
 
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Here is the hose I am switching over to.

https://www.xrp.com/product/hs-79/

This company will make the swedged on end hoses and not charge a labor fee.

https://www.figspeed.com/an-fi...ltra-light-hose.html



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Summit brand hose and lines on both of our dragsters. Black nylon hose and Nickel coated fittings. Zero issues with them going together and staying together. Looks very good still after a few years of service so far. We have also used Vibrant fittings with the same results, the vibrant fittings are black and so far so good with not turning brown..


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Here is the hose I am switching over to.

https://www.xrp.com/product/hs-79/

This company will make the swedged on end hoses and not charge a labor fee.

https://www.figspeed.com/an-fi...ltra-light-hose.html


The XRP stuff looks nice. I may call them to check price on the crimper setup. The crimped lines always look really clean. I knew that Les at Figspeed can make up lines.
 
Posts: 634 | Location: Rochester, WA | Registered: November 22, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I've made the swap to XRP black fittings this season and they are the best looking compared to all others when new. They appear to be hard coated rather than normal black anodized. Time will tell if they turn copper or violet color as have Earl's, Fragola and Russell.



The fuel log that I built is all XRP, the fuel line fitting feeding the log is earl's

Next car's hoses and fittings will come from here...

https://www.bmrs.net/
 
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I've made the swap to XRP black fittings this season and they are the best looking compared to all others when new. They appear to be hard coated rather than normal black anodized. Time will tell if they turn copper or violet color as have Earl's, Fragola and Russell.



The fuel log that I built is all XRP, the fuel line fitting feeding the log is earl's

Next car's hoses and fittings will come from here...

https://www.bmrs.net/


Good to know Ed. I am in the same boat with discoloration of the black fittings. I've used all the main brands you mentioned. I have nickel plated on my radiator from Fragola but it doesn't look they are making them now. I can only find them in Summit brand and I don't speaky.... I am pretty sure I am going to order XRP crimper and do all crimp style.

Just found out the price for the crimper is almost $2000. I can't justify the cost for the amount that I would be doing.

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For about the last 8 years, I have installed mostly Aeroquip Startlite black hose and Aeroquip reusable fittings. I am delighted with the products. Also, as posted above, the XRP line is good.

I have accumulated so many AN reusable fittings that usually, all I need is the hose. If I did not have this inventory, I would most likely be installing the push-lock type hose and fittings. I like the simpler look of the push-lock. Starting from nothing, the push-lock will save some money.


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Originally posted by TonyB6255:
Just found out the price for the crimper is almost $2000. I can't justify the cost for the amount that I would be doing.

for about the same $ you can send all your current hoses to Brown & Miller for them to copy with their hoses and crimp fittings and their turn around is less than 1 week. Ain't no hose/fitting better.

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While the crimpy stuff is cool, and light, the big picture is $$$$$$$$$$$
Look at the 3 types of fittings used in the sportsman, bracket racing arena.....
Reusable.
Push-loc
Crimp.

Reusable, well, it says it all. They are re usable as long as you dont screw up the threads
And as we all know the fittings are not really cheap, or the quality fittings are not really cheap.
But when you make changes, or have stuff laying around that someone needs, you can help, sell, or generally connect the dots with fittings.
The fittings,combined with the correct hose, and properly assembled is as reliable as anything.
SO....
Now you have 3 manufacturers, and they make 3 different types of fittings on how they assemble, along with 3 different types of hose, and the sh it does not last, or it does not assemble.
Ok, it happens, Joe buys X fitting from JUGS and then buys Z hose from Sally and it will not assemble, or worse yet, it goes together so easy they dont realize it will never seal in a higher pressure application.
So the incentive to buy everything from one manufacturer is very good, but again, price rears it ugly head..... you see where this goes...
Now the same goes for Push LOC. You should not mix manufacturers hose and fittings, it is a recipe for disaster. Or worse yet you add a hose clamp to a push loc hose, which causes the fitting barbs to cut the inner liner and the hose fails.....oooops, sorry you are on your own.
The reason there are crimp fittings are......
there is no end user problems, no mixing or matching of improper size hose with another manufacturers hose. Only those with th edies to assemble can cut them apart and shorten a hose or modify an assembly. Plus from the manufacturers standpoint, we will sell more hose and fittings this way. Take away the reusable part, they have to buy more. Very much like the Hydraulic industry.

Aeroquip was great,I used thousands of dollars worth monthly until there was no stock from the supplier, for whatever reason, usually bean counters or dollars the inventory went to ****. I had to use other fittings to get the customer done and gone, and again, sometimes not a desirable outcome.
 
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Other than a few Fragola fittings my whole car is plumbed with XRP fittings and hose. Very happy with the quality of XRP so far.
 
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Oh and BTW, the black nylon type, hose unlike the SS braided that we have used forever......
Most need a liner to keep from collapsing...
Will not make a decent bend without collapsing.
And will not make decent vacuum without collapsing.
Will collapse with out aforementioned coiled liner, but the liner is a band aid, and the coils will trap debris, so not really good.
Steel braided will last a little bit longer than nylon braided in case of a fire, like fuel lines....... seconds count getting out of a burning door car.
THe frigging weight is negligible between SS and "black Lightweight" hose.
The current excuse is: It is way easier to assemble, and I dont get poked.
 
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Anyone else try the teflon hoses with the braided exterior? Maybe I'm the last one to switch. I have used for a few applications and thus far they have been great.


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Just found out the price for the crimper is almost $2000. I can't justify the cost for the amount that I would be doing.


Same for me, i was getting it to till I saw the price


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Just found out the price for the crimper is almost $2000. I can't justify the cost for the amount that I would be doing.


Same for me, i was getting it to till I saw the price


You should see the ENTIRE cost. I could easily get to $3500 for the full system. I will be using their fittings and hose to re-plumb my car but not the crimp style.
 
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Thanks but no thanks for that company. Their own Facebook page has multiple complaints about shipping and customer service being in China.
 
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Just found out the price for the crimper is almost $2000. I can't justify the cost for the amount that I would be doing.


Same for me, i was getting it to till I saw the price


Need me to cut a few more conduits with paper cables in them?



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Just found out the price for the crimper is almost $2000. I can't justify the cost for the amount that I would be doing.


Same for me, i was getting it to till I saw the price


Need me to cut a few more conduits with paper cables in them?


Yes please as long as the weather is good


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I'm guessing Seabass works for one of the Bells.
Splicing is very time consuming!
A damaged 100 pair cable is 400 splices. Now imagine a 3200 pair cable.

As for fittings, I used Aeroquip,Earl's, Russel and China crap to just to be able to race. Some hose doesn't work well with different manufacturers, that I have experienced.



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I'm guessing Seabass works for one of the Bells.
Splicing is very time consuming!
A damaged 100 pair cable is 400 splices. Now imagine a 3200 pair cable.

As for fittings, I used Aeroquip,Earl's, Russel and China crap to just to be able to race. Some hose doesn't work well with different manufacturers, that I have experienced.



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