Bracket Talk
Air in cooling system.....
April 02, 2018, 02:59 AM
imakehpAir in cooling system.....
I have a aluminum radiator up in front of the footbox on my dragster. AN fittings on the radiator and hoses running from it back to the engine. I have a CSR electric pump with AN fittings also. Filler neck has an AN fitting.
Problem is, obviously the radiator up front is lower then the water pump. If I change the water in later rounds the system gets air and won't pump water.
I'm trying to figure a way to put vacuum to the filler neck to get the air out so it pumps.
Has anybody used a vacuum pump like this? It's about a 6' run of hose each way.
I've seen online a tapered rubber cone with a fitting that I could just stick in the filler neck h0le, attach my a/c vacuum pump, and let it sit for a for 5-10 minutes.
Will this actually draw all the air out even though the radiator is 6' away and lower?
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 03:22 AM
FootlooseDave what would happen if you lifted or jacked the car up maybe a foot then filled of course with the water pump going?
April 02, 2018, 03:41 AM
imakehpquote:
Originally posted by Footloose:
Dave what would happen if you lifted or jacked the car up maybe a foot then filled of course with the water pump going?
Hummmmm.....I'll try that in the morning.
Only issue I can think of is to get the radiator 2' higher/ or at least level with the w/p I may have to raise the front end 4'-5'
But if that worked I'd keep it in mind for a quick/panic fix if needed late rounds.
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 03:44 AM
FootlooseJust be safe

April 02, 2018, 03:53 AM
imakehpoh He11 yes...lol
I'll use the engine hoist and just hook it to the tow tab.
Be cool if raising it works. But I still hope the vacuum thing will do it because I don't have "helpers" at the track now days.
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 06:29 AM
Busted KnucklesGet one of the Chinese inch-worm chassis, that'll solve the issue!
Organized people are just too lazy to look for their $h!t.
April 02, 2018, 07:17 AM
1355PROBuy one of these and don't look back. Makes filling the car a pleasure.
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Eric Macchiaroli
S/R1355 80 Arrow
April 02, 2018, 07:35 AM
BD104XYou would probably benefit from a bleeder valve at the radiator, maybe teed into one of the fittings. I had a dragster with a horizontal radiator, I used to fill the cooling system with the front tires in the trailer and the rears on the ground.
Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com
April 02, 2018, 08:52 AM
CashflowSo your cooling system is just not big enough to keep the car cooled in the later rounds?
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April 02, 2018, 09:11 AM
SP 124XI've used an airlift cooling system filler a few times and it worked well.
Denis LeBlanc
April 02, 2018, 02:36 PM
imakehpquote:
Originally posted by Cashflow:
So your cooling system is just not big enough to keep the car cooled in the later rounds?
Of course not...why do you think I sometimes have to change out some water later in the day?
Fuel tank isn't big enough to make it through the day either....what's your point? lol
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 02:55 PM
Mike EnglishDave, fill it at the radiator. Highest point on the low pressure side of the cooling system. Intake is on the high side.
L8R, Mike
April 02, 2018, 03:11 PM
imakehpHi Mike, yeah I was thinking about pulling the radiator and welding on a filler neck with just a screw on cap. If lifting or vacuuming doesn't do it I'll try that.
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 05:05 PM
Mike EnglishThey way you have it now, you'll always have air in the system. Ask Ed, he knows...nothing..lol
L8R, Mike
April 02, 2018, 06:03 PM
CashflowDave,
My point would be perhaps you need a bigger cooling system. I had a homebuilt sprayer on my old roadster and it worked fine. Good luck!
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April 02, 2018, 09:35 PM
smokinjeffDave would a remote pump close to radiator help push the water to the engine. I am interested in this topic as I have a radiator up front in new to me dragster. It has a remote pump by radiator and previous guy said he didn't have a problem with cooling but he also was running on alcohol.
Jeff McClure
April 02, 2018, 09:42 PM
imakehpquote:
Originally posted by Cashflow:
Dave,
My point would be perhaps you need a bigger cooling system. I had a homebuilt sprayer on my old roadster and it worked fine. Good luck!
Actually I was agreeing with you brother.
This is an older (low frame rails and body) and kinda short car (225") so space is a premium. I would LOVE to have one of those diesel truck size radiators over the trans and a transmission cooler on top of it.
I have a luxury liner new chassis (252") that just came of the jig so I don't want to make mass changes in this old car...
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 09:50 PM
imakehpquote:
Originally posted by smokinjeff:
Dave would a remote pump close to radiator help push the water to the engine. I am interested in this topic as I have a radiator up front in new to me dragster. It has a remote pump by radiator and previous guy said he didn't have a problem with cooling but he also was running on alcohol.
I had the front up 4' today and then tried the rear up 3', burp every fitting, vacuumed the system for 1/2 hour, even tried a different pump and still no water pumping.
I'm going to take the radiator out tomorrow and weld on a neck and screw on cap. I'm going to feed water from the garden hose through it and make sure it's not clogged.
I like the extra inline pump idea. What are you using?
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Dave
F J B
April 02, 2018, 09:57 PM
FootloosePump is not wired backwards right. Reverse flow

April 02, 2018, 10:08 PM
smokinjeffIt's an inline meziere pump only not tandemed. I havnt ran it yet. Been going through whole car and fixing issues and making it right for me. Hope ya get it fixed. I was going to put 2 radiators on my old car and may on this one if I run gas. It may cause air pocket problems but I wouldn't know what to do if everything went smooth. Good Luck
Jeff McClure