Its been a minute!!! Finally carved out time from family and shop schedule to devote some time on our Quick program. This past Saturday we hit National Trails (1st time there and loved it) for the Performance Clinic Quick 8. Out of the box this little 23* motor laid down: 60': .961, 330': 2.735, 660': 4.245 at 163!!! From there we made a slight timing and fuel pressure change to go: .941, 2.714, 4.228 at 162 (she was shaking the tire from 330-660).

This was a motor I borrowed and then bought. Its a basic 434 with Profiler 23* heads built by TRE. Literally is SCAT crank and rods and shelf Diamond pistons and a NOS cam (something like a 285/306 at .050 and .850 lift on a 116), Cast intake with single Dominator and a single stage Induction Solution fogger on a Progressive.

Best part is there is a ton left... Only had the 37 jet in leaving at 35% on the progressive and ramped in over 1 second. This MT 33x10.5W tire keeps proving that the more power you give it the better it works. The shake in Q2...I believe I'm due for a fresh set...wear holes are a little thin and tire is 5ish years old. I believe this next set will be the 16" version and bead-locked!

That .941 60' though....was a party for sure!!!

Very nice. Have the heads had anything done to them?

I know that's a light car....but dayem! That's getting it done. One a 10.5 nonetheless.

5.85 rods or tall deck 434?

How many rpms at the stripe?

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I know that's a light car....but dayem! That's getting it done. One a 10.5 nonetheless.

37 jet is like 375 hp. Probably 1150 1200 hp be my guess. The block (5.85 rod or tall deck) and rpm determine how much is left, durability speaking.

I'm sure it's a standard deck (according to cylinder head), probably a raised cam BBC cam bore.

Strong, lotta fun to drive I bet.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
5.85 rods or tall deck 434?

How many rpms at the stripe?

I believe so. I don’t have a lot of info...no build sheet! Purchased at the right price kinda deal! Lol

On spray...8400 through the stripe. Converter is a wee bit loose for the combo.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Very nice. Have the heads had anything done to them?

TRE’s port...they have some epoxy in them!

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I know that's a light car....but dayem! That's getting it done. One a 10.5 nonetheless.

37 jet is like 375 hp. Probably 1150 1200 hp be my guess. The block (5.85 rod or tall deck) and rpm determine how much is left, durability speaking.

I'm sure it's a standard deck (according to cylinder head), probably a raised cam BBC cam bore.

Strong, lotta fun to drive I bet.

Standard deck and standard cam location!

375-400 according to IS paperwork. It’s a 37/27 with 6psi of fuel and 950 bottle pressure!

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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
5.85 rods or tall deck 434?

How many rpms at the stripe?

I believe so. I don’t have a lot of info...no build sheet! Purchased at the right price kinda deal! Lol

On spray...8400 through the stripe. Converter is a wee bit loose for the combo.

Those tires aren't stingy about growth either. Ya have a good combo, Tire, Converter, Gear, Power.

And you can probably get away with a 1.80 low with the converter. Around 13% (4.56) ain't too bad though.

Good work, I like it. It's a Hot Rod.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
5.85 rods or tall deck 434?

How many rpms at the stripe?

I believe so. I don’t have a lot of info...no build sheet! Purchased at the right price kinda deal! Lol

On spray...8400 through the stripe. Converter is a wee bit loose for the combo.

Those tires aren't stingy about growth either. Ya have a good combo, Tire, Converter, Gear, Power.

And you can probably get away with a 1.80 low with the converter. Around 13% (4.56) ain't too bad though.

Good work, I like it. It's a Hot Rod.

You hit it...1.80 straight cut and 4.56 in a 12 bolt. We do this too many more times I definitely want to bead lock this deal. I believe we can get it to run some teens later this year. Ig was 3250’ Saturday... such a fun ride!!

Very Nice that is serious for a 23* head SBC.

I just had my first time out with the MT 10.5W x 33 tire and it seems to work really well on my FED. I ran into a few other issues Saturday night but early results for the tire is impressive.

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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
5.85 rods or tall deck 434?

How many rpms at the stripe?

I believe so. I don’t have a lot of info...no build sheet! Purchased at the right price kinda deal! Lol

On spray...8400 through the stripe. Converter is a wee bit loose for the combo.

Those tires aren't stingy about growth either. Ya have a good combo, Tire, Converter, Gear, Power.

And you can probably get away with a 1.80 low with the converter. Around 13% (4.56) ain't too bad though.

Good work, I like it. It's a Hot Rod.

You hit it...1.80 straight cut and 4.56 in a 12 bolt. We do this too many more times I definitely want to bead lock this deal. I believe we can get it to run some teens later this year. Ig was 3250’ Saturday... such a fun ride!!

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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I know that's a light car....but dayem! That's getting it done. One a 10.5 nonetheless.

37 jet is like 375 hp. Probably 1150 1200 hp be my guess. The block (5.85 rod or tall deck) and rpm determine how much is left, durability speaking.

I'm sure it's a standard deck (according to cylinder head), probably a raised cam BBC cam bore.

Strong, lotta fun to drive I bet.

Standard deck and standard cam location!

375-400 according to IS paperwork. It’s a 37/27 with 6psi of fuel and 950 bottle pressure!

You can work with that, it limits the cam a bit but it sounds like it has a good choice in it now for the head. I'm sure it's a 5.85 rod being a TRE, he's a super experienced guy with stuff like this.

A friend had a 434 same block 18 degree head with 6" rods, that thing could've used a 5.85 rod, it was near impossible to keep the heads on that thing 500 hp on a plate system. It made good 143 mph power @ 3150 lbs but I don't think it ever made it through a race, without having the heads off of it. 5.85 rod will make more power as well, standard deck 434 nitrous.

Cool combo you have there sounds like you've found a perfect bullet for it, definitely not cookie cutter car either,it's unique. Good luck with it!

So the shorter rod makes the combo less prone to detonation? I know a turbo guy that maybe should be aware of that.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
So the shorter rod makes the combo less prone to detonation? I know a turbo guy that maybe should be aware of that.

Objectively speaking, a 5.85 rod alleviates a short compression height, associated with short deck sbc 434's.

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
So the shorter rod makes the combo less prone to detonation? I know a turbo guy that maybe should be aware of that.

Objectively speaking, a 5.85 rod alleviates a short compression height, associated with short deck sbc 434's.

I imagine gives more space for thicker piston top and moving the ring package down as well? And affecting the dwell near TDC?

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Mike Rietow:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
So the shorter rod makes the combo less prone to detonation? I know a turbo guy that maybe should be aware of that.

Objectively speaking, a 5.85 rod alleviates a short compression height, associated with short deck sbc 434's.

I imagine gives more space for thicker piston top and moving the ring package down as well? And affecting the dwell near TDC?

Axial thickness, spacing, dwell, yes. 5.85 rod is a better deal nitrous stroked standard deck sbc.

I chose a 5.85 rod for our new All Pro RR 3.875 x 4.185 427.

Rod ratio is less of concern in the grand scheme of things, than getting the ring away from the heat and pressure associated with large doses of nitrous.