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DRR Trophy |
dont worry mitch 1310 likes to strut his stuff makes him think hes somebody special I have used air bladder under back of my vet for 25 years. Saves the shocks and springs. They were desigined to go down table flat race tracks. Itow alot on I80 very bumpy bladder saves susspention The difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. Stupidity is the inability to learn. Don't be stupid | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
And it looks like this. lol | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuC4L8wHDjg&t=399s | |||
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DRR Pro |
I like the information posted below the youtube video. "The information contained in this video is based on the opinion of Tim McAmis and his 30+ years in the motorsport and manufacturing industries." 1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436 | |||
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DRR Elite |
I stated my opinion, no argument from me. I couldn't care any less what the OP does or anyone else posting here with their car, their money, their time but maybe my opinion leaves some with hurt feelings for those whose beliefs are based in myth, rumor, hearsay and internet forum lore rather than the facts I present from 30 years of experience.
I don't need to strut my stuff vetman, it speaks for itself...top shelf, championship caliber cars/program! | |||
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DRR Pro |
I wonder if Lenzy Pepkins takes credit for all to the Patriots success??? ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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DRR Pro |
The OP stayed on track with his posts & people derail the thread. 1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436 | |||
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DRR Trophy |
Thanks guys for the McAmis link. No hurt feelers here Ed, I have been given a lot of both good and bad information/tips since I won my first bracket race back in 1976, however long ago that was. | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Mitch, You asked a very good question. There should of been no need for any kind of even a mild argument. I am hoping this thread opens more peoples eyes and minds on the need to limit suspension travel when towing. In answer to the other posters question as to why we don't see that issue on our tow rigs...well those shocks are right at the axle and have lots of air flow around them. As Roger said it is just plain physics. To prove our point, place an open cooler with a few bottles of water at the front and back of the trailer by the back door. See which one is still full after you drive a few miles. On our car we always cross the rear tie downs as well to give a better angle of pull. | |||
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DRR Elite |
there is no need, that is your opinion, not fact. Further, this thread is not about the proper way to tie down a door car. | |||
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DRR Elite |
I have had my DRAGSTER 17 seasons. I didn't support the car for the first two or three seasons, and had a tube break. I supported from then forward in time, and have not had a tube break since. I also wore out a shock within 4 years. Now I send in the shock when I want to make a change. Illinois roads are no joke. They will find the car's weak point. If there is no significant weak point, great. If there is, you are often at the race track with a two piece car missing rounds or worse. For the one extra minute it takes me to slide that sucker in and pump it up before we leave, I figure I will.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Bucky, Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Mc Amis knows...…………… Way back when I had a Tommy Mauney built car, this was before there were air bladders available. Tommy suggested that I support the chassis in the trailer. I built a support out of a motorcycle inner tube an a piece of 3/4" plywood. Put it under the rear crossmember and inflated it worked like a champ, never had any chassis or shock problems. I've had dragsters ever since and have been using either my homemade support or an air bladder ever since. 272" Spitzer 540 Chevy The Blower Shop XR1 FTI XPM Series Converter FTI Level 6 Powerglide 3.69@199 .916 60' 2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness Open Outlaw Champ 2018 PDRA T/D #5 2019 PDRA T/D #2 2020 Retired From T/D Competition.... 2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner 2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass. | |||
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DRR Elite |
Bucky, what car, your dragster? If so, I don't know anyone that doesn't use a bladder under their dragster's chassis but door cars aren't dragsters, door cars don't have the unsprung length in front of the rear tires a dragster does. Also note, some chassis have a history of breaking uprights even when a bladder is used due to a poor chassis design. As to shocks, I have never wore out any shock on my cars in 30 years, never had a shock leak oil, never had a shock loose it's charge. Further the shocks on my Firebird are original, what was installed when it was built in 2004, same as the shocks on my dragster, now 5 years old and if your correlation to your wore out shock is due to "bad" roads, they are everywhere and I've driven all over this country towing from Illinois, to Louisiana and all points east. | |||
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DRR Elite |
Mine is a Mark Williams design DRAGSTER. Broke right in front of the 4 link mounting points on the bottom, and behind the transmission. Maybe it was a fluke, but in fairness we reinforced it with diagonals horizontally. Obviously in my eye a weak point in this design. But, supporting sure won't hurt.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Bucky, Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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DRR Elite |
agreed when the conversation is dragsters | |||
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DRR Elite |
I edited to be more clear about what kind of car. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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DRR Elite |
thanks for clarifying | |||
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DRR Pro |
I ran top sportsman for many years and I always put the air bag under the trans pan with round 12 to 15 psi in the bag. | |||
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DRR Trophy |
I would have never considered that! Do you feel it helped both ends of the car from that location? | |||
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DRR Pro |
Mitch once tied down it minimized movement and kept car "loaded". Put many miles on the Firebird in the trailers. | |||
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