Great kit for the money if you don't want a custom bent cage !!! I've used both first and second gen kits from them and they fit great and you can have them bend up the rest for an 8.50 cert that will go through the dash and not in front of it.
Why would anyone suggest a 7.50 cert cage in mild steel, whats the reasoning of that ????
August 05, 2020, 01:50 PM
86BigBlockBird
it's your car and your money. it seems like you're pretty set on Mild Steel despite nearly everyone recommending Chromoly.
August 05, 2020, 01:56 PM
RacerVX54
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer: because he thinks he knows like the OP
Nhra tech guy told me 8.50 cert is good to 155mph 1/4 or 1/8. Which kind of surprised me to be honest.
"Just Shut Up and Race"
Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126
August 05, 2020, 02:03 PM
Tom R
Chromoly for re-sale is the way to go.
I'm not sure it is any safer in a crash.
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NASCAR chassis are unique in racing circles. The cars have a minimum weight of 1542 kg (3400 lb), quite heavy by race car standards. NASCAR requires the frame and roll cage components be fabricated from mild steel. This allows the car to absorb the forces of a crash in a bend-before-break mode.
Nascar still requires mild steel chassis for their 200+ mph cars.
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72 Nova 370 ci (Stealth Black)
August 05, 2020, 02:55 PM
RacerVX54
quote:
Originally posted by Tom R: Chromoly for re-sale is the way to go.
I'm not sure it is any safer in a crash.
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NASCAR chassis are unique in racing circles. The cars have a minimum weight of 1542 kg (3400 lb), quite heavy by race car standards. NASCAR requires the frame and roll cage components be fabricated from mild steel. This allows the car to absorb the forces of a crash in a bend-before-break mode.
Nascar still requires mild steel chassis for their 200+ mph cars.
And when they ran over 200..
"Just Shut Up and Race"
Brian Martin Martin Racing 5.50 126
August 05, 2020, 05:52 PM
B KING
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Originally posted by 86BigBlockBird: it's your car and your money. it seems like you're pretty set on Mild Steel despite nearly everyone recommending Chromoly.
I'm not set on Mild Steel, was set on Chromoly as said in another thread previously. Then started considering mild steel because of my budget below.
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Originally posted by B KING: I have saved 50 K for my final racing years. Unfortunately most will be spent on a 34' bathroom package trailer. The remainder will be spent on car upgrades.
After that happens, I still need to reconfigure the cars engine/drive train for a Procharger.
I pay cash for everything, but a mortgage/one vehicle payment & put down good amounts of $$$ on them.
The 50K is for the 1st para. in the above quote. If I can get all the car upgrades done for 10K including Chromoly cage, it will be done. Because 40K will probably be used on the new trailer.
As for the engine/drive train reconfiguration for the Procharger set-up. That cash is not saved, but all work/parts will be paid for in cash.
1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436
August 05, 2020, 08:15 PM
BP758
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Originally posted by head gamez: Id skip both and go for Chromium-Molybdenum instead.....
Originally posted by RacerVX54: Why on earth would he suggest a 7.50 cert cage... Yea nooo.
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Originally posted by 1320racer: because he thinks he knows like the OP
Maybe because he knows that I might turn it up a little & go faster than 8.50!
1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436
August 06, 2020, 04:43 AM
1320racer
your shytbox will never produce a 8.49 time slip no mind a 7 second 1/4 mile time slip!
August 06, 2020, 06:17 AM
B KING
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Originally posted by 1320racer: your shytbox will never produce a 8.49 time slip no mind a 7 second 1/4 mile time slip!
I will start out with something nice, Good Morning ED!
Never implied our stated anything about a 7 second time slip! The plan is to run low boost for high 8 sec. runs. I see no issues with having more safety margin with a 7.50 cert. be it chromoly or mild steel.
I have been well into the 7's many times with a different race vehicle. I'm pretty sure I know what it takes to manage a quick ride.
Have a nice day ED!
1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436
August 06, 2020, 08:26 AM
1320racer
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Originally posted by B KING: I have been well into the 7's many times with a different race vehicle.
Must be true, because you claim to have, on an internet message board. Of course you won't post a time slip with one of your "many" 7 second 1/4 mile passes on it with your competition number nor will you post your NHRA License with your name on it and coded 6A, 6B and/or 3A.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1320racer,
August 06, 2020, 08:45 AM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
quote:
Originally posted by B KING: I have been well into the 7's many times with a different race vehicle.
Must be true, because you claim to have on an internet message board.
You are truly a Jealous/Hater!
I took a fully Sponsored ride & turned it into a winning truck.
1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436
August 06, 2020, 08:49 AM
1320racer
Time slip with your competition # on it, matching the 7944 on the window and your NHRA license with the same # 7944 with your name and coded 6B or it's just another baseless bullshyt internet message board claim!
August 06, 2020, 09:10 AM
B KING
Don't have to prove nothing & especially to you!
I raced it from 2004-2006, didn't keep my S/C licence updated. Just recently got re-licenced with a different # & class, but that not true because it's not posted.
My name is on the door along with the truck owner. That's me in the pic with the trophy.
My home track competitors are on DRR also, they could raise the BS flag if it wasn't true.
1980 Camaro Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before! 3000 lbs. Pump Gas 436
August 06, 2020, 09:17 AM
Mike Rietow
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Originally posted by 1320racer: Time slip with your competition # on it, matching the 7944 on the window and your NHRA license with the same # 7944 with your name and coded 6B or it's just another baseless bullshyt internet message board claim!
Why because you say so? I jumped in a Ray Miller 4 link dragster in 04 wearing flip flops, pajama fire jacket and pajama pants went 4.63 and coasted 7 second 1/4.
I've never had a licence. You need a license to tell you you're capable of drag racing?
I never needed anyone to tell me I was capable.
August 06, 2020, 09:37 AM
Al Alguire
quote:
t inter
I know that truck and its current owner and I own a home in Vegas and have seen the truck run many times over the years. Also seen Mr King's Camaro run plenty as well. Have no reason to doubt anything he says and can verify his claims for what that's worth.
As for the question at hand I say do what you feel you can comfortably afford. I have done both and not had any issues with either, performance wise or resale wise. I sold my last car that was MS for a fairly good chunk of change and the new owner is perfectly happy with it as was I
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." Marcus Tullius Cicero
August 06, 2020, 09:37 AM
1320racer
quote:
Originally posted by B KING: Can't prove nothing to you!