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Ignition / electronic choices for a new build ????

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November 16, 2018, 12:02 PM
Bucky
Ignition / electronic choices for a new build ????
Speaking of using the Netbooks...Some of the EFI systems support using these handhelds as a gauge cluster. If you could get one to live and be able to mount it securely yet removable, imagine how slick that would be! Particularly if wireless is setup. Use it for both the gauges and for any tuning that you want to do even in the lanes.


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November 17, 2018, 09:15 AM
HS professor
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Depending on what type of shifter you are using (CO2 or big Electric coil) how you could / would wire Grid to work would need to be determined. I have written about how to wire and program Grid for FB so that it will mimic the Delay box method. By this I mean that the “Time from Launch Timer” runs and allows you to use the Shift Light RPM, Output Switch Timer and programmable Launch Retard feature.Grid can also be wired just to shift in FB without starting the Time from Launch Timer also. Read more about Grid HERE



Holy shyt is this a lot of info to absorb !!!! It's gonna take me a while just to read it all let alone let it sink in lol

Thanks Mark and everyone who repied. Grid and box it is. What coil is used with this ?? I'm not computer savvy at all and either is my son, so the learning curve will be frustrating I'm sure lol
November 17, 2018, 11:28 AM
markemark
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It is wise to match the MSD ignition to the recommended coil. MSD lists the 8251 and 8261 coils for the 7720 ignition. Your choice.

If using 7730 to control a 6al, then the coil would be one that is recommended for 6al.

When wiring, consider using a minimum 12 position terminal strip for device termination. This will allow you a test point for components and ease in adding or changing how something could work when using Grid.

Load MSDView4 into your computer now, open it up and learn how to use it. Like most software, the more you use it the easier it is to understand what you are doing. Having your son do the same will allow both to learn together. If you are overwhelmed with what you need to do to race Grid prior to purchasing you can always change direction and go analog.
November 17, 2018, 04:02 PM
Mike Beck
Hmmmmm........ I vote for EFI. Everything in one box, and you have one of the best tuners on speed-dial! Smile

I'll help ya with the Grid. Always wanted to learn it but sold my setup before I ever used it. Became very happy with the Holley and found it did everything I wanted!

MSD does have a coil that is typically used with the Grid. Look on their website.
November 17, 2018, 05:52 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Beck:
I'll help ya with the Grid. Always wanted to learn it


Mike, after you install MSDView4 and open, 5 minutes later you’ll be asking “ That’s it?”
November 18, 2018, 08:38 AM
HS professor
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Hmmmmm........ I vote for EFI


There's only two things Mike I can guarantee will never make it into our program, one is a dragster and the other is EFI Big Grin
I've watched you for years, maybe decades play with that stuff, with great success I might add......... But it aint for me lol
November 18, 2024, 08:13 PM
flabbyone
I am trying to talk myself into adding a grid 7730 to my MSD6AL , but I am struggling to justify getting a laptop just to program it. Does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap laptop to do this? Thanks
November 18, 2024, 09:04 PM
Alaskaracer
I already ran the Grid, but decided to ditch the dizzy this time around and got the Pro CDI 600. Love it. Everything is easier, nothing to move after cam sync and crank trigger are set. No phasing rotors, shorter plug wires, etc.... And I can see firing data as well....more data is good data...


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November 19, 2024, 03:50 AM
RPROGAS
I have a 7730 Grid but not the 7720, instead I use a digital 7230 7AL-3.

Changing chips for any last minute changes is quicker and easier than dragging out the lap top, firing up the generator to provide 110 power and connecting the USB cable to make those adjustments/changes. I primarily use the Grid for data recovery, timing/retard maps and check/confirm trans-brake release information. I have a Digital Delay Mega 450 for all the other functions, throttle stop events, shift event (RPM or time), trans brake delay/ over ride (bump up or down), etc.. Some functions of the Grid/7AL-3/Mega 450 are redundant, I'm looking for the simplest and quickest way to control and monitor those events, plus I already had the 7230 prior to buying the Grid.

Bob
November 19, 2024, 06:21 AM
Curly1
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Originally posted by Bucky:

But if I were starting from scratch with ignition, and had any thought of efi in the future, the smart money would be doing the ignition with a Megasquirt. You can data log all you want, and control more than you would ever want to. Add a few sensors later and some injectors and you are efi. If you are into that.


I am considering same thing as HS Professor and I think right now best option would be the MegaSquirt MS3 Pro. Good data logging, can use many of same sensors I already have and it can control EFI should I ever get brave and want to add it. It can control everything you want on your car.

Plus it seems like MSD is having more and more problems with the boxes.


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November 19, 2024, 07:47 AM
Cashflow
Curlywhirly,

Just to throw a monkey wrench in the works have you not considered Fueltech? Doesn't it do dang near everything and all in one box?


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