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hard tail dragster front suspension, kit or plans, do it yourself..

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October 23, 2018, 06:47 PM
STEVE LUCE
hard tail dragster front suspension, kit or plans, do it yourself..
anyone here, know of a kit or plans, that will put me in the right direction to front suspend my 96 suncoast 225 inch dragster..I can and will do the work myself.. tried googling, and, dead end..
October 23, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jason Compton
Try Diamond


Jason Compton
October 23, 2018, 08:37 PM
STEVE LUCE
yeah, that is where research has led me soo far..I will call them, unless others have more choices..thanx..
October 23, 2018, 08:50 PM
SCDIV1
Don’t think anyone offers a kit but short travel struts were installed on some cars. Similar to some altereds. My friend has an Advanced Chassis built 32 Bantam altered. Pro Start Chassis installed those struts on his car trying to make a better handling car of it. I just saw a dragster for sale that has those struts on it. I think it is an Ed Quay car. Pro Start was in NJ, but out of business. Quay is still in business but different owner and does not build dragsters. The strut front end dragster belongs to John Debartolomeo....Drag Racing Edge magazine editor/photographer/ racer and family.
October 24, 2018, 05:38 AM
Jason Compton
I've seen one of those with the front struts last time out,would be interesting to find out how they preform. I have the front suspended on my hardtail and it works great. Rides great, adjustable and no pulling the front runners outta the beams.


Jason Compton
October 24, 2018, 08:54 AM
STEVE LUCE
Thanks guys..
October 24, 2018, 10:26 AM
brian hansbury
I Have a Brand New Backhalf that would be an easy install Mono Shock that looks Just Like and American Backhalf For Sale Cheap
October 24, 2018, 06:13 PM
imakehp
What's cheap?


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Dave



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October 24, 2018, 07:45 PM
SP 124X
quote:
Originally posted by brian hansbury:
I Have a Brand New Backhalf that would be an easy install Mono Shock that looks Just Like and American Backhalf For Sale Cheap





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October 24, 2018, 07:49 PM
wideopen231
If you get plans or kit info send me PM on it.Have thought about a suspension on front of FED.




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October 24, 2018, 08:58 PM
Curly1
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
If you get plans or kit info send me PM on it.Have thought about a suspension on front of FED.

Do not even think about it on a front engine dragster. I am pretty sure it will not work. From what I can tell you need the front end as light as possible on these things to make them hook up and work well. Mine had 389 Lbs and it was way too much. Now I am trying to move weight to the rear and having to add weight to rear to counteract what I can not move. The best way is to build the front end light so when car launches the front tires are in the air and ll weight is on the rear. Then you can fine tune with wheelie bar and maybe 5 or 10 Lbs up front as needed due to better air.

I think on an altered front suspension is a great idea because it allows the car to move a few inches forward before it comes up much pulling front tires out of beams. On a long wheelbase front engine dragster the chassis flex takes care of that and from my experience you need to carry front wheels on them.
Now if you had a 175 inch front engine dragster it would be different because it is short and will not flex as much and it would act similar to an altered.

I also think it may be a good idea on a 4 link rear engine dragster because they have rear to make tires hook so on them the front suspension would just make it smoother.

Getting my front engine dragster to work has not been easy and I think front suspension would make it harder.


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October 25, 2018, 11:06 AM
wideopen231
mines only 320 with 16v battery,4.5 fuel and 20# bolt on weight. Was told 300 minimum,if you want to drive it.will be less once get wire wheels from Hayded. Oh yea another 5# left front corner in steel bars in canard mount.




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October 25, 2018, 11:20 AM
Lenny5160
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
Do not even think about it on a front engine dragster. I am pretty sure it will not work. From what I can tell you need the front end as light as possible on these things to make them hook up and work well.


At least in theory, the front end could be heavier and the car still work well if the chassis had some "give" in the form of suspension to help weight transfer.

Of course, if there has never been a FED built with front suspension, there could be a reason for it.


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October 25, 2018, 12:32 PM
wideopen231
yep no one ever tried it.Just like someone had to try first front suspension hardtail.At one time there had never been a RED with suspension.

Ok now back to original programming.




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October 25, 2018, 01:19 PM
David Covey
Look up smokinjeff, and PM him. He's from Amarillo and his dragster is suspended in front. Not sure of builder.

Dave


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October 25, 2018, 03:35 PM
Andy5602
Have I missed something? Several of the front engine dragsters had a Torsion style front end along with a lot of the mid to late 1970s rear engine dragsters. Is that not suspended? I have had a few front engine cars that had like 2" of front travel on the torsion axle
October 25, 2018, 04:44 PM
wideopen231
Correct. We where speaking of coil over suspensions like one OP was asking about.

Sorry not trying to hijack thread. Was meant as a mention to OP to let me know if he found anything out and not start whole new topic.




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October 25, 2018, 07:18 PM
SR2010
Is this what you guys are talking about? https://www.miller-racecars.com/photogallery.php
October 25, 2018, 07:50 PM
STEVE LUCE
beautiful stuff,, but, can I do it myself, in the form of a kit or plans???
October 25, 2018, 08:02 PM
STEVE LUCE
there is a guy in Canada that a lot of racers up here had done, and are doing..meaning suspend the front end, even tho they are rear suspended as well, Brian White race cars.. and swere by his work, that what he does makes a big difference..problem for me is, Way too far away, for it to be practical and feasible..plus I prefer to do stuff myself if I can get good info..