Bracket Talk
427 SBC or 427 BBC
May 15, 2019, 03:57 PM
john c427 SBC or 427 BBC
If one has a option witch would be better 427 SBC
or 427 BBC in a 87 Camaro about 3200 lbs with driver using a power-glide for bracket racing
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May 15, 2019, 04:14 PM
Mike BeckSBC has a LOT more room in that car!
BBC will go faster for less money, but the plug access and headers will make you wish you had a SBC............
Aftermarket K-Member will help with weight and headers, diaper, etc....... Have them in both of my 3rd Gens.
May 15, 2019, 07:52 PM
markemark^^^^^^^^^ X2. I have a 2865# 3rd Gen
May 15, 2019, 08:38 PM
DragRaceResultsI'd say a 420" LS SBC would make most sense - hp for $'s. Check into it.
May 16, 2019, 10:25 AM
Mike Beckquote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
I'd say a 420" LS SBC would make most sense - hp for $'s. Check into it.
Possibly mid 9's on unleaded gas, with the right cam and heads.
Or cheap 6 liter with a little work on stock heads with a cam and mid 10's on unleaded.
But........ Now the cost to convert, unless you stick with a carb.
An entire takeout engine with the new Holley stuff to run it, plug and play, still, $1200 ECM/Harness plus a fuel pump/regulator/etc...
May 16, 2019, 11:59 AM
markemark^^^^^ So what N/A LS configuration makes 700 HP (no vac pump) using methanol for fuel?
May 16, 2019, 02:25 PM
SS427IMPBBC may be quicker and cheaper for now but from what I've seen injected LSX is the wave of the future for most of us and the cost will come down eventually.
May 16, 2019, 02:30 PM
J178RED427 SBC is my choice … I'm running a 414 SBC in 2800 pound Camaro with a soft tune. Runs low 10s at 3600 ft. adjusted . P/G with 4.88 rear gear and a tall tire , roll out 103".
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May 16, 2019, 04:52 PM
WooleyI am saying sbc. Like said way more room in that car to work it. I think that with the heads available now, even 23* stuff, the power gap won't be as big as years past. The sbc will be lighter too.
May 16, 2019, 07:51 PM
john cFirst Thank You All for the suggestions
I never though about the Ls3 I see a lot of 6.0 Truck engines for sale on Craigs list for under 3 k with the iron block.Do guys run the carburetor or the fuel injection .I figure I will need at least 550 - 600 hp to go 10.50 in my Camaro with the power glide
Thank You All Again
May 16, 2019, 09:34 PM
Mike BeckMSD makes a box to run the coil packs if you want to run a carb on an LS engine. Keeps your initial cost down, can add the EFI later if you want it.
May 17, 2019, 05:46 AM
green1My nephew bought a 6.0 LS motor with 58,000 miles on it for $500 then did cam swap plus bought a set of heads that had a little work done to them and put carb on it and it made 512 hp on dyno at 6500 but hp hadn’t peaked yet so who know how much more it may have made if any. The shop said with full CBC heads 580 hp easy. He has less than $3500 into the motor. I guess it depends on your area as to what the price of a motor cost.
May 17, 2019, 02:43 PM
FootbrakeJimI am a long-time diehard BBC guy, but I gotta agree with Mike & Mark - In that car, (unless it has a tube chassis), I'd go with a SBC. My 85 Z28 was hard to work on with a small block, can't even imagine with a big block.
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May 17, 2019, 05:34 PM
Mike Beck1st & 2nd Gen F-Bodies with a BBC, not bad.
4th Gen F-Body, not too bad with the rack and pinion setup, but can be very tough to R&R the engine through the top, but can be done.
3rd Gen F-Body with stock front end, stay-away from a BBC, this is Bracket Racing, keep it easy if you can!
May 17, 2019, 08:50 PM
Perfomer412ci LS on E-85 makes 725 hp . I use Dayton sensor box and harness . 1050 Dominator by Sullens .5.71 118mph 2625 with driver Foot Braking
May 17, 2019, 09:39 PM
john cI am interested in this 412 on E-85 what parts are needed
June 11, 2019, 09:57 AM
The BozmanI am also considering a LS motor but want carbed on alky. can you run a regular distributor with the LS?
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June 11, 2019, 12:58 PM
TomRquote:
Originally posted by The Bozman:
I am also considering a LS motor but want carbed on alky. can you run a regular distributor with the LS?
They make an adapter kit to run a front mount Ford distributor.
https://proshop.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all90090Here is an article with pics of one going together.
http://www.superchevy.com/how-...retor-power-increase
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June 11, 2019, 05:07 PM
Curly1This is an interesting option if it were still available.
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June 16, 2019, 07:26 AM
Busted KnucklesThe Race Shop at Scoggin builds an LS3 based 416 with OEM block, CNC ported OEM castings and a carb that makes 700hp through a carb, 13:1 compression and a squishy roller...
https://sdparts.com/i-24104146...ate-race-engine.html
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