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Originally posted by TOP38:

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Originally posted by NEMO963:
I didn’t think you did Top, I agree bashing MT was a “ED” thing to do, and my point was you can bash any tire (or product) but that doesn’t help the original poster looking for information...I just assumed the negative Hoosier post was coming from a MT fan so I took the opposite side to prove a point, or be contrary...however you want to look at it.

I guess my nature is when someone asks something I don’t reply if I don’t have first hand experience. If I have a negative experience I say “I used it and this happened to me, this is why, how I got around it, or unless they fixed it I would look at this”. I was being sarcastic and taking the other way which is bad mouth it with no backup, explanation, and often no first hand experience. You can say on this case “well everybody complains they shake” which is false on its face since many don’t...and the pool of racer that use BR-1 on a super gas car is sooo small the chances of anybody that jumps in and says they will is most likely taking out their butt. On top of that there are soooooo many variables on tires what works good in my car maynot on yours (power settings, weight, shock settings, suspension settings, track temp, track condition) that a blanket statement like “have a welder” is silly since mine doesn’t shake. Maybe his did but that’s because he doesn’t have enough power or suspension is not right or whatever. Now answering like “man I would be careful with the BR-1 because if you don’t hit it hard enough you may have some shake, I had that and ended up on a c1500 and had much better luck”...that helps the original poster, keep a welder handy not so much. Just like my comment, my Mt’s didn’t leak and I didn’t need soap, I heard people that did...I blistered mine but running 220mph in a 145 degree race track, so I always say “well if your not running 220 on hot tracks you’ll be in good shape with a 3196, but faster than that may want to look at a different tire”...that’s helpful, not “MT sicks they blister”.

Lots of words but that’s my explanation for why I was a smart a$$, not because that’s the type of person I usually am....also it’s cold here and I want to race my car so I’m grumpy.

Nemo

I'll add this, first I have run GY, Hoosier and MT on my current ride. 4 link 6.60 to 6.80 dragster, MT's are the hands down winner, the others aren't even close, kinda like the Patriots... Sorry I had to get that in there!

When your running well over 200 MPH your in a different world than the bracket world and no matter what part we are talking about, parts just don't last anywhere as long! It's the Laws of Physics! Bracket dragsters can get over 200 runs on a set of tires, at 220, divide that by 4 if your lucky.

And it's cold at my place too! LOL

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Originally posted by rusty:
goodyears were the best for my bracket car also,for now staying with c 1500 hoosier in td.steve what tire is that you have is that a test tire

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Originally posted by TOP38:
Scott & others

To clarify, I have always stated that all the tire companies out there produce good products! However both GY and Hoosier struggle in the TD class. If you don't believe me then just walk the lanes at any event, MT rule, case closed. Now that doesn't mean that the other tires won't work or that no one is using them. In this deal the MT's have the largest sweet spot and are the most user friendly tire.

I also drive a car in TS for a friend. It has Hoosiers on it and works well however as I have experienced with Hoosier on my dragster, in cool conditions the Hoosier have down track issues that occur much sooner and with much more intensity than the MT's. We will be trying the MT's this seasons. In normal summer weather the Hoosier work fine.

As for GY's, I haven't used these on my dragster since the old 2032's were made, an excellent tire on track and even better on cold ones (I nick named these my snow tires) however they were just down right nasty in the burnout, shake was terrible coming out of the burnouts and it took it toll on gear sets! The 34.5 Hoosier also has the same issues. All the MT's I have run are smooth as glass coming out of the BO and believe me, the gear sets and rear gears are liking that! From what I hear, the GY's are also good down track, it's getting off the line without shaking is the issue.

So the bottom line is simple, this is the USA, no one has a gun to your head to force you to run any tire, pick your poison and lets race!

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Originally posted by 358T:

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Originally posted by TOP38:
Scott & others

To clarify, I have always stated that all the tire companies out there produce good products! However both GY and Hoosier struggle in the TD class. If you don't believe me then just walk the lanes at any event, MT rule, case closed. Now that doesn't mean that the other tires won't work or that no one is using them. In this deal the MT's have the largest sweet spot and are the most user friendly tire.

I also drive a car in TS for a friend. It has Hoosiers on it and works well however as I have experienced with Hoosier on my dragster, in cool conditions the Hoosier have down track issues that occur much sooner and with much more intensity than the MT's. We will be trying the MT's this seasons. In normal summer weather the Hoosier work fine.

As for GY's, I haven't used these on my dragster since the old 2032's were made, an excellent tire on track and even better on cold ones (I nick named these my snow tires) however they were just down right nasty in the burnout, shake was terrible coming out of the burnouts and it took it toll on gear sets! The 34.5 Hoosier also has the same issues. All the MT's I have run are smooth as glass coming out of the BO and believe me, the gear sets and rear gears are liking that! From what I hear, the GY's are also good down track, it's getting off the line without shaking is the issue.

So the bottom line is simple, this is the USA, no one has a gun to your head to force you to run any tire, pick your poison and lets race!

I did have a smiley after I said I'd play devils advocate. Meaning I was mostly messing around. But this went the direction I knew it would.

I don't doubt or question that for the TD and TS crowd and the really fast crowd that the M/T's work awesome and better for a lot of people than the other brands. I don't question or doubt that they work great for milder combos or door cars either. I've seen it with my own eyes. The results are plain as day for everyone to see. I even have first hand knowledge of a several that tired like hell to get something besides the M/T to work and as soon as they gave up and went to M/T all the problems went away and wham the car was great. I not here to debate the reasons why and so on.

Yes I agree that this is the USA and we all can do as we choose. For now I choose to be the red headed step child and run something besides M/T. That doesn't mean that I wont stay open minded and may try them again in the future or that I think they are junk. It just means IMO, for now I have found the combo that works best for me. Others results may be and likely can or will be different so I'm not posting to convince them otherwise.

There has been a ton of info shared in these tire threads that many would not know if people like you didn't share. I know I'm appreciative of what you and others share regarding your results. If I ever build a fast car or have issues like described in these threads, because of you guys I have the knowledge to make a more educated decision on something that would have been uncharted territory. So don't stop... like I said my smiley indicated I was just poking the nest.

Scott

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Originally posted by TOP38:

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Originally posted by 358T:

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Originally posted by TOP38:
Scott & others

To clarify, I have always stated that all the tire companies out there produce good products! However both GY and Hoosier struggle in the TD class. If you don't believe me then just walk the lanes at any event, MT rule, case closed. Now that doesn't mean that the other tires won't work or that no one is using them. In this deal the MT's have the largest sweet spot and are the most user friendly tire.

I also drive a car in TS for a friend. It has Hoosiers on it and works well however as I have experienced with Hoosier on my dragster, in cool conditions the Hoosier have down track issues that occur much sooner and with much more intensity than the MT's. We will be trying the MT's this seasons. In normal summer weather the Hoosier work fine.

As for GY's, I haven't used these on my dragster since the old 2032's were made, an excellent tire on track and even better on cold ones (I nick named these my snow tires) however they were just down right nasty in the burnout, shake was terrible coming out of the burnouts and it took it toll on gear sets! The 34.5 Hoosier also has the same issues. All the MT's I have run are smooth as glass coming out of the BO and believe me, the gear sets and rear gears are liking that! From what I hear, the GY's are also good down track, it's getting off the line without shaking is the issue.

So the bottom line is simple, this is the USA, no one has a gun to your head to force you to run any tire, pick your poison and lets race!

I did have a smiley after I said I'd play devils advocate. Meaning I was mostly messing around. But this went the direction I knew it would.

I don't doubt or question that for the TD and TS crowd and the really fast crowd that the M/T's work awesome and better for a lot of people than the other brands. I don't question or doubt that they work great for milder combos or door cars either. I've seen it with my own eyes. The results are plain as day for everyone to see. I even have first hand knowledge of a several that tired like hell to get something besides the M/T to work and as soon as they gave up and went to M/T all the problems went away and wham the car was great. I not here to debate the reasons why and so on.

Yes I agree that this is the USA and we all can do as we choose. For now I choose to be the red headed step child and run something besides M/T. That doesn't mean that I wont stay open minded and may try them again in the future or that I think they are junk. It just means IMO, for now I have found the combo that works best for me. Others results may be and likely can or will be different so I'm not posting to convince them otherwise.

There has been a ton of info shared in these tire threads that many would not know if people like you didn't share. I know I'm appreciative of what you and others share regarding your results. If I ever build a fast car or have issues like described in these threads, because of you guys I have the knowledge to make a more educated decision on something that would have been uncharted territory. So don't stop... like I said my smiley indicated I was just poking the nest.

Scott

Thanks Scott,,,

Are you watching the Patriots parade on TV today? It's on now.


GO PATS!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Curly1:
I am glad we can talk about what tire works on your car with out the nasty name calling and BS.

On my altered the MT 3074 tire worked better than any other tire I had ran. On my dragster almost same weight, same motor, transmission and gear ratio not the same. So now I am making changes in the chassis and if that does not do it then going to start trying different tires.

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Originally posted by Big Steve:

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Originally posted by Curly1:
I am glad we can talk about what tire works on your car with out the nasty name calling and BS.

On my altered the MT 3074 tire worked better than any other tire I had ran. On my dragster almost same weight, same motor, transmission and gear ratio not the same. So now I am making changes in the chassis and if that does not do it then going to start trying different tires.

You just need a blower so you can make more power and hit the tire harder

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posted February 05, 2019 08:58 AM Hide Post
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Originally posted by rusty:
goodyears were the best for my bracket car also,for now staying with c 1500 hoosier in td.steve what tire is that you have is that a test tire


Rusty, not being a smart ars, but any tire would work OK with that 1.03 sixty foot.

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Originally posted by rusty:
Frog if that question was for me ,td setup c1500 hoosier.bracket set up was 3190,if I go back it will be c 1500 until I have a reason to change

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Rusty, I like the C1500 a lot but currently have on the TD7 and I like it also. I also have the TD7 on my bracket car going 4.60 and like it a lot also. No problem on burnout in bracket car or Procharger car.

Steve Furr