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Originally posted by Roger McGinnis:

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Originally posted by J Olejniczak:
I have a hard time accepting the fact that a $400 item is not repairable. That would stop me from buying it. I have my Digital 7 ignition and full V300Sd racepak which covers my needs. I have repaired all kind of electronics my whole life and recently soldered in a new battery in my Fitbit watch that I was told was a throw away. Also repaired a K&R Delay box as well. The watch was $120 and still works great now. Seems like society just accepts this fact and we can change this by not buying their products and letting them know.

The boards are epoxied. That's why you can't repair them.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Roger McGinnis:

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Originally posted by J Olejniczak:
I have a hard time accepting the fact that a $400 item is not repairable. That would stop me from buying it. I have my Digital 7 ignition and full V300Sd racepak which covers my needs. I have repaired all kind of electronics my whole life and recently soldered in a new battery in my Fitbit watch that I was told was a throw away. Also repaired a K&R Delay box as well. The watch was $120 and still works great now. Seems like society just accepts this fact and we can change this by not buying their products and letting them know.

The boards are epoxied. That's why you can't repair them.

Maybe a good reason not to buy them.

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Originally posted by markemark:
tas472, because you were able to easily exchange Grid 7730 with another known good one and have the problem follow the bad box, it easily diagnosed the problem. Very nice. Also, having a DD switch box and relay board offers a dedicated ignition on circuit that isolates this signal to the ignition control which is a nice feature as well.

Here’s my comment that is not expressly directed to you, but to anyone reading this thread.

MSD Grid 7730 is the most powerful programmable ignition control offered at the retail price of $435. Discounted thru the web it can easily be had for just over $400. This is very inexpensive considering all the features it offers and free firmware and support in the future. Unlike analog ignition that needs multiple hardware to do something other than fire the ignition, Grid 7730 can do it all and offers a limited data acquisition system.

MSD Grid 7730 is a throw away if it every fails. This is because it’s so inexpensive to replace. The great part is that you can many times change it in less than 5 minutes, load your saved program and be back running in the event of a controller failure.

Both of my Grid 7730 are over 6 years old. They get cycled in and out of my car yearly so that I know I always have a good working spare. They have also been in others cars when trying to diagnose a problem. My car needs a programmable ignition to run properly. If one ever fails the replacement is miniscule compared to the many thousands of dollars of mechanical parts that have failed in my car during this same 6 year period.

If anyone can show me a programmable ignition controller that is better than MSD Grid 7730 with all the same features and support for the same retail price I’ll be the first to step up and say “I’ll take two”.

GO GRID 7730 !!!

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Roger McGinnis:


The boards are epoxied. That's why you can't repair them.

Maybe a good reason not to buy them.

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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Originally posted by Roger McGinnis:
They are epoxied to keep people like TechWest from making them illegal.

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Originally posted by markemark:


I think they are potted or epoxied to protect the board components.

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Originally posted by markemark:

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Roger McGinnis:

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Originally posted by J Olejniczak:
I have a hard time accepting the fact that a $400 item is not repairable. That would stop me from buying it. I have my Digital 7 ignition and full V300Sd racepak which covers my needs. I have repaired all kind of electronics my whole life and recently soldered in a new battery in my Fitbit watch that I was told was a throw away. Also repaired a K&R Delay box as well. The watch was $120 and still works great now. Seems like society just accepts this fact and we can change this by not buying their products and letting them know.

The boards are epoxied. That's why you can't repair them.

Maybe a good reason not to buy them.

Let me put this into my perspective.

If you are registered with Jegs racer program today, you can purchase MSD 7730 for $409 and use the SAVE40 offer they have now to make your total purchase price $369 delivered. Open the box when you get it and remove the controller. All those items still in the box are worth over $100 whether you need them or not.

I commend those that have the expertise to repair electronic devices. But the cost of electronic repair verses replacing with a new device and warranty at the $400 cost can be disputed this way. No shipping to and from. Immediate replacement without the 3-4 week repair wait with a 3 month warranty.

For those that use analog ignition with as many external electronic devices to accomplish their engine control, (whether older or new analog models) or those that are using the now (over 1 yr) obsolete Dig7 boxes, your cost for complete programmable control and throw away replacement cannot compare with MSD GRID 7730.

I recently attended a race and met a friend that has a 4.25 et dragster. He showed me a problem that he was having in his $2k data acquisition system. Reviewing the Grid 7730 data acquisition showed more of what was happening and he was able to resolve his problem.
He agreed that his 4.25 dragster and I agreed my 6.50 door car cannot run using analog ignition control. It only works using Grid 7730.

Mark Whitener
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Originally posted by markemark:
^^^^Install when you get it and leave it in for at least until the warranty period is up