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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum Tech Talk - by Abruzzi Not liking the XS batteriesGo | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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DRR Sportsman |
XS 16volt standard heavy aZZ battery with their smart charger and alternator from House of Payne. Going on year #6. Just saying. Michael Frizie ET 2471 | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Same as Steve, the repackaged Moroso charger with a Rock racing batteries sticker on it. Mike Greene  | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Red top Optima in battery tray middle of car XS 1200 in nose and barely fits Been using that pair of batteries with a super mini alternator and HOP starters since 2013 Replaced red top once and old one is still good Never replaced XS and they sit on a charger/maintainer 24/7 all year Never had a problem On gas with a lot of electrical loads | |||
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| DRR Pro |
Cable issues are biggest culprit. My son wires drag cars and it is amazing some of them even started before he went work on them! Make sure the block or the actual starter bolt is grounded to the battery, not just the frame. Take no chances, the better the ground, the more effective the positive cable can deliver amps. | |||
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DRR Pro |
I've got three seasons on my xs 16v so far and zero issues....16.5:1 665" engine alky injected.....cranks like no tomorrow....and as far as going dead, I've ran as many as 5 rounds without recharging (generator died on me), still started car without issue.....several more times......and I'm not currently running an alternator.... One thing to remember is a "dead" 16v battery still has more available voltage than a fully charged 12v battery does...... Agree with Ed on this, a lightweight battery doesn't belong in a bracket car. I tried that ONCE.....car wouldn't start after two attempts....so I use that battery for my timing light since it won't work on 16v. I also plan to find a spot for my alternator. Looking like where the crank trigger is at now, and I'll move the trigger under the engine....with my alternator, I doubt I'll have to charge the battery at all at the track...... Mark Goulette Owner/Driver of the Livin' The Dream Racing dragster www.livinthedreamracing.com "Speed kills but it's better than going slow!" Authorized Amsoil Retailer | |||
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| DRR Pro |
AGREED. I replaced a 9 yr old PC 1500DT Odyssey this summer that still cranked good enough to start my sbc. I also replaced the 2.4hp ECAE starter with a 3.0hp from HOP at the same time. That starter increased the cranking speed. I almost never charge my battery. Sits in race car 4+ months during winter never on charger. Odyssey states battery only needs charging if below 12.65v. My alternator is 135 amp and system is 14.2+ volts at idle or wot. If I had BBC door car I’d have two of them.This message has been edited. Last edited by: markemark, | |||
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| DRR Elite |
a good "regular battery" is AC Delco which I ran in my doors cars for decades until this season. Never had one fail and typically swapped them out every 4-5 years just because. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
My first I bought in Aug. 2008 and replaced it in March of 2017. Used it 3 more years as my tongue jack battery. Using Battery Tenders 24/7 makes a huge difference in the life of a battery no matter the voltage. I believe them to have one of the best inner constructions of "regular batteries". Guess we have to use quotes. LOL ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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| DRR Elite |
I’m not trying to win a bullshyt contest as to how long my battery(s) will go before replacement same with the nonsense claims from those who don’t charge their battery between rounds. Im all about winning races, not losing a round because I’m trying to prove a meaningless point about a battery. That said I’ll put my previous used AC DELCO battery against any “regular battery” for usable service life on a 15:1 bbc. | |||
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DRR Trophy |
Question for those who leave race cars in storage in the winter in colder states, do you leave the battery on trickle charger in the car or take it somewhere warmer like in the house basement or something? Nick Craig 1971 Camaro Split Bumper 376ci LS3 | |||
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| DRR Elite |
No to trickle charge and no to removing the battery from cold conditions. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I keep every battery that is not in daily use on a LOW AMPERAGE (0.75) maintainer 24/7. RV house and chassis, lawnmowers, race car. BG | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
I have the big XS in my dragster with the fancy mezier (sp) starter and flexplate. No alt, but charge every two runs with the XS charger. 5 years old. My Camaro has 2 yellow top Optimas with a standard old school alternator. They gotta be 10 years old. | |||
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| DRR Elite |
My shyt must be junk because I have the XS D1600 battery in both cars with 120amp alternators in both cars and I use the best battery charger bar none on both cars between rounds and my charger never gets to trickle/float mode after the 1st round due to time between rounds and is always charging at 15 amps or more after every round. | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
Based on what you just said, I would have to agree with you that your shyt must be junk  All kidding aside, the only time ours is at 15 amps or more is when the alternator belt on the dragster stretched a little one time and wasn't charging correctly. Problem solved with a better Dayco Top Cog belt and it always goes to trickle mode after 5 minutes or so... Unless we are literally hot lapping, with only time being to drive back to pits, splash some methanol in the tank and head back to the staging lanes.. Then it may take 10-15 minutes after the race and we're back to fully charged! Nick Craig 1971 Camaro Split Bumper 376ci LS3 | |||
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| DRR Elite |
I’ve been running Dayco Top Cog belts for over 3 decades. That said, my engines run gas. After the pass the engines are cooled to 110 in my pit with the charger on. Once reached, fan/water pump is shut off and battery stays in charger until started for next pass. | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
Ever since switching to the Dayco belt, we never had to adjust it again on the alternator. And this season we switched to methanol, get back from a pass at 180* or so, shut it off while splashing fuel in and its back to 150-160 and doesn't climb again till going down the track. Methanol for the win there! Nick Craig 1971 Camaro Split Bumper 376ci LS3 | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Well, I don't have much experience in the later rounds anymore  | |||
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| DRR Pro |
In car, 15* to 30* inside garage during the winter months, no charger. 0 turn mower and scooter same way. | |||
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