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Glide input shaft stuck

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September 29, 2021, 08:17 PM
Bucky
Glide input shaft stuck
Spare trans that has sat in the shop a while.
Put it in my son's car, and it has servo pressure, but won't move in any gear. park works. Pulled the trans, input shaft is correct for the converter. But I can't turn it or remove it.
What's goin on here?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
September 29, 2021, 09:38 PM
Trans Lady
Probably the wedding band hanging it up.
September 30, 2021, 07:24 AM
wideopen231
Would be my first guess too. Had one I couldn't pull before but would turn, guess if can seize one way it could the other too. Since trans is out just yank pump and drum. Got to love simplicity of a glide.

Plus we all know wedding bands will mess things up. Hey somebody was going to say it.




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September 30, 2021, 08:31 AM
Bucky
First thing I thought when I read wedding ring. Causes so many problems for so many.

So loosen up the band, pull the pump and drum and remove the ring? So I need another at that point? How do I prevent this going forward?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
September 30, 2021, 10:33 AM
Eman
You said you can't turn the input shaft? I don't think the wedding band/bushing will cause that.
Either way when you pull the pump and drum you should find the problem. When you said you have servo pressure I'm guessing you put a gauge on it and have pressure in 1st and 2nd.
September 30, 2021, 10:51 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Eman:
You said you can't turn the input shaft? I don't think the wedding band/bushing will cause that.
Either way when you pull the pump and drum you should find the problem. When you said you have servo pressure I'm guessing you put a gauge on it and have pressure in 1st and 2nd.


Right I can't turn it
I only checked in 1st but yes had a gauge meeting.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
October 05, 2021, 04:31 PM
Toad1
Are you sure the band was backed off (adjusted)? Could have pinched the thrust bearing on the planetary but usually it just won't go in if that is messed up. I agree, loosen band first, try it. If that doesn't do anything just take the pump out and take a look.
Good luck with it.


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October 05, 2021, 06:27 PM
chasracer
Had the wedding band on the last one I took apart hosed up just enough to keep the shaft stuck in place.
October 05, 2021, 07:16 PM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Toad1:
Are you sure the band was backed off (adjusted)? Could have pinched the thrust bearing on the planetary but usually it just won't go in if that is messed up. I agree, loosen band first, try it. If that doesn't do anything just take the pump out and take a look.
Good luck with it.


First thing I checked after not being able to move it. Band was fine.
I stuck my other trans in for now and will check this out over the winter. Just thought maybe it was a quick and easy fix.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
October 07, 2021, 06:22 AM
Sugar Shane
Throw that wedding band in the trash! Witnessed many get placed in the trash by the Longs from SD.


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October 07, 2021, 09:56 AM
Mike Rietow
If the input won't turn as stated by the OP, you're not gonna have anything when you put it in any gear.

Sounds to me like it blew the lip seal off the high gear piston and now has the hub pinned to the drum cover (rocked sideways), taking out low gear. Running, it's got park in every gear.

It's not the wedding band. Not even close. If a builder uses a chitty wedding band for an assembly, it can possibly make the input shaft difficult to remove for the next guy comes along after him.
October 08, 2021, 07:17 AM
adv ET 266
I’m predicting two separate issues.
Glide input shaft stuck and can’t be pulled out is typically a way different issue than one that is can’t rotate from input shaft. Yes, the wedding band bushing is typically the issue when it can’t be pulled out, but could be the stator tube or ring seals.
Unable to turn, if not the band, could be a few other things and none that are good. Planetary damage or thrust clearance gone.
Good luck.



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