Bracket Talk
power bleeders/one man bleeders

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January 26, 2021, 08:13 AM
BD104X
power bleeders/one man bleeders
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I have a Motive and the same master. They make a few different adapters but the one I have is a rubber cone that fits over the hole in the Tilton master. Google "Motive 1101".[/QUOTE]
Billy no leaks with the 1101 adaptor? The chains around the plastic tank to achieve a tight seal concerns me. [/QUOTE]


Sorry Ed, just saw this now... I see you bought the right adapter but for anyone else wondering, the universal chain adapter is clumsy but it works. You dont need a ton of pressure to get fluid moving.
I'm not sure if I read this on the Corvette forum I visit or from one of the techs at my job but another tip I picked up but have yet to try myself... you can use the motive bleeder without putting fluid in it as the pressure is what does the work, you obviously just have to be careful not to empty the master. The beauty of the Motive unit is that replaces the fluid as you bleed, so if you are doing a major flush or an all new brake system you'd probably want to fill the unit but if you are just doing a clutch master or maybe just doing a little preventative-maintenance bleed on a dragster for good measure after a pad change then you don't have to fill the unit with fluid as it's the pressure that does the work... just keep an eye on the MC reservoir. That's handy if you have a few vehicles that use different fluid.


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January 26, 2021, 08:28 AM
TonyB6255
I have the same Wilwood MC's that were asked about in this thread. I don't think the universal will work with my dual MC's because they are very close together. I ordered the cheapest version of the pump and a spare MC cap. I plan on drilling and tapping a fitting into the cap and trim the reservoir seal back.
January 26, 2021, 02:50 PM
Larry Woodfin
A firm, high pedal, not a drop spilled.




Larry Woodfin



January 26, 2021, 02:51 PM
Larry Woodfin
Good pedal




Larry Woodfin



January 26, 2021, 03:10 PM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Woodfin:
A firm, high pedal, not a drop spilled.


But, did you get the ED approval. HMMMM


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
January 26, 2021, 05:58 PM
1leg
Made in america

https://agm-products.com/colle...ake-pressure-bleeder


Meziere Tech.
Make sure your water pump is on whenever you check your coolant level.
January 26, 2021, 06:20 PM
Larry Woodfin
Mr king, I am simply showing what has worked for me all through the years. When I first open my business in 1972, I worked by myself for the first few years, so I had to make do. In those days, any form of pressure bleeder was just a legend. Maybe something a fellow would find in a big city shop. Now, at age 73, I am again working by myself, so, gotta make do. The plastic tubing is 15 cents per foot at the local hardware store. The cup is from someday out to lunch.


Larry Woodfin



January 26, 2021, 06:31 PM
1320racer

January 26, 2021, 06:32 PM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Woodfin:
Mr king, I am simply showing what has worked for me all through the years. When I first open my business in 1972, I worked by myself for the first few years, so I had to make do. In those days, any form of pressure bleeder was just a legend. Maybe something a fellow would find in a big city shop. Now, at age 73, I am again working by myself, so, gotta make do. The plastic tubing is 15 cents per foot at the local hardware store. The cup is from someday out to lunch.


Mr. Woodfin, I like your style! There's more than one way to skin a cat as evidence by you & others in this thread.


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
January 27, 2021, 09:42 AM
The Bozman
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:

I will be coming to borrow that when its warmer so I can do mine, or better yet just have you come over and show me how its done.


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January 27, 2021, 10:20 AM
1320racer
Anytime, easy peasy
January 27, 2021, 12:26 PM
FootbrakeJim
quote:
Originally posted by BD104X:

... you can use the motive bleeder without putting fluid in it as the pressure is what does the work, you obviously just have to be careful not to empty the master. The beauty of the Motive unit is that replaces the fluid as you bleed, so if you are doing a major flush or an all new brake system you'd probably want to fill the unit but if you are just doing a clutch master or maybe just doing a little preventative-maintenance bleed on a dragster for good measure after a pad change then you don't have to fill the unit with fluid as it's the pressure that does the work... just keep an eye on the MC reservoir. That's handy if you have a few vehicles that use different fluid.[/QUOTE]
That is a great tip, Billy. Eliminates a potential mess if the adapter doesn't seal perfectly. And no cleanup of the Pressure Bleeder with denatured alcohol afterward.
The old-school method has always worked perfectly on the 70 Chevelle & 68 Camaro here, but I have never been able to get a truly firm, high pedal on the Monte Carlo. Every component has been replaced on it, every inch of hard & soft lines. Gravity bleed seemed to help a bit. I am thinking air is trapped in a high point in the front to rear hard line, and maybe the flow rate or volume of a normal pedal pump is not enough to push it out. Going to try the Motive pressure bleeder on it.


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January 27, 2021, 03:14 PM
BD104X
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I am thinking air is trapped in a high point in the front to rear hard line, and maybe the flow rate or volume of a normal pedal pump is not enough to push it out. Going to try the Motive pressure bleeder on it.[/QUOTE]

Crack the nearest fitting loose at that point while bleeding, might just get it moving enough to get the bubble to pass.


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