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Tubes or not Tubes

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March 15, 2019, 09:10 AM
Mr Bill
Tubes or not Tubes
I am putting new rims and tires on the front of my door car, that I just purchased, and want to know should I run tubes or not?
March 15, 2019, 09:26 AM
markemark
Checked my car out last night after racing this weekend and found this screw in my tire. Don’t know when it happened in the 2 days I was on the track, but the tire still holding air. I put a tire plug in it from the outside. You can’t do this with tubes. I've done the same with the fronts.


March 15, 2019, 09:34 AM
green1
No tubes. Never knew anybody to run tubes in front and very few in rear.
March 15, 2019, 09:47 AM
NC3x58
One guy I know runs tubes in his rears and no idea how it happened but the tube twisted inside the tire and completely threw the balance of the tire off and cause the sidewall of the tire to cave in... Have also never heard of running tubes in the fronts. It honestly just adds unnecessary weight, if they're new wheels and tires, there should be ZERO issues with tires holding air.


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March 15, 2019, 11:59 AM
Canted Valve
What does the wheel/tire manufactures recommend? They are the one's that R&D their products, and customer satisfaction at stake.


Illegitimi non carborundum
March 15, 2019, 02:30 PM
RacerVX54
No tubes or screws its not 1970 anymore.


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Brian Martin
Martin Racing
5.66 @121.55
March 15, 2019, 04:14 PM
Bad News
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
Checked my car out last night after racing this weekend and found this screw in my tire. Don’t know when it happened in the 2 days I was on the track, but the tire still holding air. I put a tire plug in it from the outside. You can’t do this with tubes. I've done the same with the fronts.
If you are going to continue to use the tire, either patch it with one of the patches that vulcanize from the inside and have the rubber stem that goes through the tire, or put a tube in it.
A flat at speed would be bad bad.



March 25, 2019, 07:27 PM
RacerVX54
plug it cut the plug down and burnout. You will have a hard time find the plug after


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Brian Martin
Martin Racing
5.66 @121.55
March 26, 2019, 05:50 AM
green1
I did exactly what he said above twice last year. Plug-cut-race.
April 10, 2020, 12:24 PM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Canted Valve:
What does the wheel/tire manufactures recommend? They are the one's that R&D their products, and customer satisfaction at stake.


Old thread I know. But Hoosier and M/T both offer tubes, and offer no guidance about whether you should or shouldn't. Just some facts which are nice.
I have heard some say that a tube can stiffen up a tire enough to reduce the tendency to shake the tires. Any experience?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
April 10, 2020, 01:30 PM
183N
My MT 3183's say TUBE TYPE right on the side of them. I've never run tubes in them nor has anyone I know.
April 10, 2020, 03:59 PM
Curly1
I prefer to run tubeless when possible. You can run a tube to stiffen up sidewalls and it does help on some cars.

I used tubes as a tuning tool to help stop bounce at the hit and it was effective.

If you do not have to save the weight and money and run tubeless.


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April 10, 2020, 05:22 PM
Canted Valve
quote:
Have also never heard of running tubes in the fronts.

Kids! Back when Super Tricks were 2 piece you had better run tubes in the front. Ancient history I know.... just saying..... never


Illegitimi non carborundum
April 11, 2020, 11:45 AM
Joe C
I have M/T front tires (no tubes) on two different cars with different wheels. Both sets leak about 2 lbs per tire a week. I have overfilled them, sunk them in a water tank, and cannot find the source of the leaks. I guess I will soap them inside and see if that helps. My M/T slicks (no tubes) do not leak. Any ideas what is going on?
April 11, 2020, 01:43 PM
RPROGAS
Hoosier's front and back, no tubes. Have not used tubes in the last 35 years, (maybe 40) never been a problem.

Bob
April 11, 2020, 02:40 PM
Curly1
quote:
Originally posted by Joe C:
I have M/T front tires (no tubes) on two different cars with different wheels. Both sets leak about 2 lbs per tire a week. I have overfilled them, sunk them in a water tank, and cannot find the source of the leaks. I guess I will soap them inside and see if that helps. My M/T slicks (no tubes) do not leak. Any ideas what is going on?


Some of the Weld wheels have an O-Ring around the valve stem and they get dry and crack then leak.


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April 11, 2020, 08:19 PM
1320racer
quote:
Originally posted by RPROGAS:
Hoosier's front and back, no tubes. Have not used tubes in the last 35 years, (maybe 40) never been a problem.

Bob

same here Bob but 30 years. Never had a flat at the track, a few times in the lanes that I didn't have fixed in minutes.
April 11, 2020, 10:21 PM
M120
Plug it and forget it!

Had one slick with three plugs and I'm still here to tell my story!



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