Bracket Talk
Funny Car cage
July 11, 2023, 08:59 PM
Little ChiefFunny Car cage
Has anyone ever seen or heard about anyone modifying a funny car cage to go with a swing out bar? I have an idea for one that has potential to have a really cool look and more importantly be very safe. Just thinking out loud.
July 12, 2023, 07:38 AM
TomRSwingout door bars are only legal for 8.50 and slower. There is not an SFI cert that allows for a swingout.
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July 12, 2023, 02:23 PM
David Coveyquote:
Originally posted by Tom Reyer:
Swingout door bars are only legal for 8.50 and slower. There is not an SFI cert that allows for a swingout.
Correct..
Dave
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July 12, 2023, 04:26 PM
Little ChiefThat is 8.50 or slower 1/4 mile correct?
July 12, 2023, 06:17 PM
wideopen231yes because 8.50 1/8 mile would be a tricycle.LOL
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July 12, 2023, 08:58 PM
Little ChiefSo that's around 5.45 in the 1/8 mile and the old girl currently runs 6.10 ish so that is plenty of cushion to evolve and still be (slow enough) Want to make the car easier to get in and out as I'm not getting more limber.
July 12, 2023, 09:38 PM
camaro77little chief what is the current cert on the cage/ chassis now?
July 12, 2023, 09:54 PM
Little ChiefNever been certified, it's a Chassis Engineering eliminator x mild steel chassis with funny car cage and additional x bracing in the cage area and tail section.
July 12, 2023, 11:27 PM
Tom396quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
yes because 8.50 1/8 mile would be a tricycle.LOL
I'm guessing you didn't watch the World Footbrake Challenge.

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July 13, 2023, 07:17 AM
CURTIS REEDquote:
Originally posted by Tom396:
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
yes because 8.50 1/8 mile would be a tricycle.LOL
I'm guessing you didn't watch the World Footbrake Challenge.

Take care. Tom Worthington
Is 8.50 faster in Bristol than other places? LOL That's still slow.
July 13, 2023, 07:54 AM
TomRquote:
Originally posted by Little Chief:
So that's around 5.45 in the 1/8 mile and the old girl currently runs 6.10 ish so that is plenty of cushion to evolve and still be (slow enough) Want to make the car easier to get in and out as I'm not getting more limber.
NHRA 8.50 to 9.99 (5.35 to 6.39) needs to be certified and a swingout bar is permitted in OEM full-bodied entires.
IHRA is 9.00 and faster (6.0 in the 1/8) must be certified and a swing out door bar is also allowed on OEM full-bodied entries 8.50 and slower.
WDRA is also 9.0 and faster (6.0 in the 1/8) swing out are allowed on OEm full-bodied cars running 8.50 and slower.
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July 13, 2023, 08:09 AM
1320racera swing out bar with a funny cage cage is illegal no matter what ET you run but only IF the chassis has been certified and only IF there was any tech.
July 13, 2023, 04:12 PM
vetmanB.S. just went through this 2 years ago with my vet-8.50 cert full chassis -alston round tube a arm 4 link after market body and a aluminum floor swing out is oked by Bob Blackwell div.5 tech director at that time so.. if your want a swingout call your div. tech and check it out
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July 13, 2023, 04:20 PM
1320racer
July 13, 2023, 11:35 PM
Tom396quote:
Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
quote:
Originally posted by Tom396:
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
yes because 8.50 1/8 mile would be a tricycle.LOL
I'm guessing you didn't watch the World Footbrake Challenge.

Take care. Tom Worthington
Is 8.50 faster in Bristol than other places? LOL That's still slow.
But still much more than fast enough for the purpose (bracket racing).

And yes, 8.50 in the 1/8 would be a very impressive pedal powered tricycle.

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July 14, 2023, 06:18 AM
434 oldsquote:
Originally posted by vetman:
B.S. just went through this 2 years ago with my vet-8.50 cert full chassis -alston round tube a arm 4 link after market body and a aluminum floor swing out is oked by Bob Blackwell div.5 tech director at that time so.. if your want a swingout call your div. tech and check it out
Do you have a funny car cage.
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July 14, 2023, 08:23 AM
TomRquote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
a swing out bar with a funny cage cage is illegal no matter what ET you run but only IF the chassis has been certified and only IF there was any tech.
I just messaged Larry Wiggins Jr (NHRA) and John Vogel (IHRA) and both said you can certify a funny car cage with swingouts at 8.50 and slower.
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July 14, 2023, 08:28 AM
vetmanfunny car type cage is not a requirment at an 8.50 cert so it is an add on for safety has no effect on function of a swingout as I said call your div. director for a clarification dont ask here you will only get Ed no heads opinion which is always B.S.
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July 14, 2023, 10:40 AM
1320racerquote:
Originally posted by Tom Reyer:
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
a swing out bar with a funny cage cage is illegal no matter what ET you run but only IF the chassis has been certified and only IF there was any tech.
I just messaged Larry Wiggins Jr (NHRA) and John Vogel (IHRA) and both said you can certify a funny car cage with swingouts at 8.50 and slower.

you asked the parking guy, yea he knows.

quote:
Originally posted by vetman:
funny car type cage is not a requirment at an 8.50 cert so it is an add on for safety
Meanwhile a roll bar is not a requirement when running slower than 11.50, it is an add on for safety but once you do, a harness is required too.
July 14, 2023, 11:14 AM
TomRLarry Wiggins does NHRA chassis certs.
John Vogel does IHRA chassis certs.
They should know since that is exactly what they do, certify chassis.
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