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Okay, here's some fodder for today. I have a friend who got his old hard tail car running again. This is an old Brogie dragster, 206 inch wheelbase and it has a very narrow rear end.

The original tire was 32x14x15 and I'm not sure he can get a much bigger tire on it. The car originally had a 355 inch small block but now has a new late model hemi, 426 cubes with one dominator. Engine makes approximately 710 horsepower and has a powerglide transmission.

I am taking the wheels to Phoenix for the National event in a few weeks and will have new tires put on it there. What's the general consensus for a tire recommendation?

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M/T 3074




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Okay, here's some fodder for today. I have a friend who got his old hard tail car running again. This is an old Brogie dragster, 206 inch wheelbase and it has a very narrow rear end.

The original tire was 32x14x15 and I'm not sure he can get a much bigger tire on it. The car originally had a 355 inch small block but now has a new late model hemi, 426 cubes with one dominator. Engine makes approximately 710 horsepower and has a powerglide transmission.

I am taking the wheels to Phoenix for the National event in a few weeks and will have new tires put on it there. What's the general consensus for a tire recommendation?

Okay.......Go!!


First ,,, Don't over tire a lower HP hardtail, it's the worst thing you can do!

How much does it weigh?
 
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About 1500 pounds, it used to be right on the money with the small block but he thinks it's a hundred or so pounds heavier now.


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M/t 3084s a little bigger than what's on it but in my opinion the best hardtail tire out there.


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I was very happy with the 3074 when I had small block. Ran the 3080 last with my 565


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I run the 3074s now,was using the 3084s and thought the smaller tire may help my consistency in 60'. Think the car was better overall with the larger tire.


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I have ran several different Hoosier tires on my altered and then went to the 3074 MT tire and it was much better.
Now I run the 3074 tire on my new hard tail front engine dragster and it is not working as well as I think it should. I believe the 3074S stiff sidewall may be a better choice for the hard tail. But I have not tried it yet so can not say for sure.

I will say this a 14 x 32 tire is more than enough tire for it and would not go any bigger.


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m/t 30751 is what I ran on a small block hard tail car 220 inch wheel base. ran 5.1?'s always worked well it is a 14.5x32x15 tire
 
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I run a 414 sbc in a 235" red and ran the Hoosier 33x13-15 with a 4:30 gear and it has been very consistent. It was a newer tire and I like the narrow but tall tire with the small block.
 
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M/T 3074


I remember when i talked to Frank.. LOL Sore subject. Tire shake.. *ss chewing was an understatement. I have to call the ole boy, make sure he's still kicken lol..
 
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I remember when i talked to Frank.. LOL Sore subject. Tire shake.. *ss chewing was an understatement. I have to call the ole boy, make sure he's still kicken lol..


What did he say about it?


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Frank is not M/T fan by any means. LOL Had similar conversation.

Thing to remember is Frank and Scotts deal is little different then ours. Heads up,9200 stage and balls to the wall. Not saying his info is bad by any means. Best source there is for FED info as well as most any dragsters and seems pretty good on roadsters too. Just their main focus is Jr. fuel or comp.




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Okay, here's some fodder for today. I have a friend who got his old hard tail car running again. This is an old Brogie dragster, 206 inch wheelbase and it has a very narrow rear end.

The original tire was 32x14x15 and I'm not sure he can get a much bigger tire on it. The car originally had a 355 inch small block but now has a new late model hemi, 426 cubes with one dominator. Engine makes approximately 710 horsepower and has a powerglide transmission.

I am taking the wheels to Phoenix for the National event in a few weeks and will have new tires put on it there. What's the general consensus for a tire recommendation?

Okay.......Go!!


First ,,, Don't over tire a lower HP hardtail, it's the worst thing you can do!

How much does it weigh?


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So Im going to be the odd ball...I run the M/T 33x10.5Wx15 and by far the best tire I have had on it and I've tested quite a few.

33x16's, 33x17's, 33x15, 33x15 SS...Hoosier, M/T, and the Goodyear and all of them shook. I even sprayed them all to "simulate" more power and they shook. I have never shaken a 10.5 tire...ever.

247" hardtail with slips up front....extremely narrow rear end car that's 1600lb with me in it.

We run 4.60's on motor with 1.02-1.04 60' and have been high 4.20's with a .985 60'!


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Also...when I got this car (ex V-6 Comp Car), Harry Clack (builder) told me the best tire for this car, for what I was doing with it was the Hoosier 33x14.5L... I have yet to try it though


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Car owner made the decision so if it doesn't work it's on him. We got him the 33x15x15 DO-5 compound Hoosier tires and new Hoosier front tires. I will deliver them to him tomorrow. He didn't want to have to keep up with airing up the Mickeys.

Now we'll see when he gets it running how things work out. Thanks for the input guys!!


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The air up Mickeys may have been true in past. My new tires now year old and still new have held same pressure for months.May loose half pound or so.




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If it is a hard tail go with a S tire. Hard tails like the stiff sidewall. Either a 3074S or the 30771 will work just great.
 
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