I might have gotten bad fuel when we came home Saturday. It was only 3 miles from home. If so I can pull my feed line off my frame mounted lift pump and pump it all out.

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The back yard. Bad drift covers most of the back yard. 1/2 way up the glass sliding doors. Have to dig what i can to get the dog out. He is freaking out and looking at Pops. WTH. ole man.

NOPE!!! Not for me.

this morning may have been a safety or something,the hood was up partially.with key in it fired right up.the bad thing on my part is its time for a filter change,there could be some contaminate in it.all is good for now ready for tyhis crap to be gone,im not setup for this

For the life of me. I could never understand what
GM was thinking not putting fuel heaters in the D*** trucks. Absolutely mindless.My 450 and the
Dodge 5.9 have them. Some of the big Units are Spec'd with fuel tank heaters. The actual cooling
system of the tractor is piped directly into the fuel tank. Coil in the tank. As the engine warms up so does the fuel.

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TD, I agree, they put a heater in the DEF tank, why not the fuel tank?
Regan and Rusty, a few months ago, I filled up at a Racetrac station that I'd used before. Drove 9 miles home. Next day, I started up, scrolled thru the info screen to check tire pressures, and noted the fuel filter shows 69% life remaining. Got 2 blocks away, and the dash chimed 3x, and said Replace Fuel Filter. I scrolled to the monitor and it was at 0%!! A block later it went into limp mode. I got it back home, drained the separator, went and got a new filter to put on it. When I dumped the old one in a bucket it had a considerable amount of water in it. I have avoided that fuel station ever since. BTW, I replace mine at around 40-50%, which is about 8 months or so. To me,, it is not worth messing up any injectors to save a few bucks.

There is water in diesel fuel.
Diesel engines produce water when hot fuel from the injectors is returned to the fuel tank; this produces water from condensation, which settles under the fuel. ... Water is also produced from diesel fuel storage due to vented storage tanks and humid air.

When i had the station back in the day, I would always monitor the underground tanks with the paste on the stick. Apply about 3" of paste on the 14' inch stick.Paste was green. I pull up the stick and see the paste turn blue .. Water at the bottom. There were all steel tanks. Not like the glass tanks that are produced today.

That is why it is so critical to treat storage systems with Biocide treatments for UST's.

Microbes in fuel are a fact of life for people who store fuel for any amount of time. And with the onset of ultra-low sulfur diesel (where the bacteria-killing sulfur is no longer present), they're an even bigger problem than before.

I always keep an eye on fuel filters when changing them If you see brown and or black slime chunks. That is mold. I see it often when i do calls with the big stuff on break downs.
You can see the crap in the fuel/water separators. With the clear bowls. Raycor units.
Diesel fuel made from animal fats such as beef tallow, pork lard, and chicken fat—known as "renewable diesel"—is distinct from biodiesel in part because of the way it's made. To make biodiesel, fats in the vegetable oil are reacted with a form of alcohol—usually methanol—to form the biodiesel molecule.

I remember clearly back in the day where a certain facility got a bad drop. The blend had excessive animal fat content. Lets just say it more likely than not went into the millions of dollars for repairs on the big trucks. They were dropping like a screen door in a wind storm. You could not find fuel filters for if your life depended on it.

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My brother in law came and picked me up earlier. I tried to find some Diesel911 or something similar. No luck! My problem has alot to do with my setup. Drawstraw in the tank pulled through a filter with an Airdog pump. I have a motorcycle jack with a piece of plywood and a heating pad pushed under my tank now. No I'm not kidding. Pics to follow

You have any truck stops there or new truck dealers where your at?

I went to a local truck stop and they didn't have anything. This weather we are dealing with is so abnormal for our area with the record low temps, power outages etc it's been crazy. Almost everything is shut down period. My power is out again for the umpteenth time. So my little rig with the heating pad will have to wait. Although I am second guessing on the dirty fuel. I recently serviced my truck. Oil & filter and my pre-filter before my lift pump. When my truck wouldn't run I spun my old filter on and it ran for 20 0r 30 minutes. I'm thinking of pumping all the fuel out and changing the filters. That's when I can get what I need. This sucks

Added 16oz of Power services suppliment on Sunday and ran it for about 20 minutes, approx 40 gallons in tank. Started it this morning, temp was around 4*, cranked over slow but started and stayed running. Drove it around town looking for gas for the generator and it ran fine. Stuff works!

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You have any truck stops there or new truck dealers where your at?

drove mine today, no issues/when gave me trouble on startupit seemed like not enough cylinder heat(guess).i would cycle key off and on for glow plugs.it would hit and die,finally hit and stayed running.i may need to check plugs.amps gave appearance the were working but who knows.i put scheiffers fuel trat in yesterday all good today.if this happened in east texas often i will have to change habits.td3550 tell me again best additive

Steve I have more than enough of the white Power Service in it. Something weird is going on. On top of that we have a race next week. Ha

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You have any truck stops there or new truck dealers where your at?

drove mine today, no issues/when gave me trouble on startupit seemed like not enough cylinder heat(guess).i would cycle key off and on for glow plugs.it would hit and die,finally hit and stayed running.i may need to check plugs.amps gave appearance the were working but who knows.i put scheiffers fuel trat in yesterday all good today.if this happened in east texas often i will have to change habits.td3550 tell me again best additive

That's great Rusty. Are you and JR going to Belle Rose?

yes and then to florida if all things work out

Weather like this sure makes me glad for a tractor with a cab. Moved some snow and brought a pallet of firewood in the garage. Enjoyable really. A far cry from doing it in this weather with an open station.

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You have any truck stops there or new truck dealers where your at?

drove mine today, no issues/when gave me trouble on startupit seemed like not enough cylinder heat(guess).i would cycle key off and on for glow plugs.it would hit and die,finally hit and stayed running.i may need to check plugs.amps gave appearance the were working but who knows.i put scheiffers fuel trat in yesterday all good today.if this happened in east texas often i will have to change habits.td3550 tell me again best additive

This is by Penray AKA Emergency Thaw.

https://penray.com/product/win...esel-fuel-treatment/

This is by Power Service AKA Emergency Thaw.

https://powerservice.com/psp_product/diesel-911/

This is the earlier label from Penray AKA Thaw.



These three will liquidfy the Icing and Paraffin in the fuel. You have to remember ice crystals will start forming. You will see it in the fuel.
Looks like ice stars. (Tiny).

The regular pre treatment by Power Service is
Considered "Anti Gell Assists in prevention.

https://powerservice.com/psp_p...lement-cetane-boost/

This is basically a biocide by Power Service.

This is for a mold condition in the fuel. For the units that sit. Like pushers and coaches.
Also is used in storage tanks. Kills the mold growth and prevents it. A lot of guys i know with toters and pushers add this in the off season to the fuel.

https://powerservice.com/psp_p...diesel-fuel-biocide/

I have had several units where as the fuel "IS NOT" Gelled. But has formed actual ice at the bottom of the tank and plugging the suction side
Of the fuel draw tube. The water drops to the bottom of the tank since it is heavier than the fuel. Long rant sorry.

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thanks

It worked! Lol

did it work reagan