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I am building a new house and shop should be complete and moved in 60 days. The shop portion will be 60' x 100" with a 16' x 100' covered car port. The location of my house is pretty nice it is up on a hill with a good view of the country. I do not think after house is built you will be able to see much if any of my house from the road with out coming up my driveway.

I would like to know what recommendations you have for security systems. Maybe what to look out for.

What I am thinking is a 12 camera system with 4 TB recording. Some Motion detectors and a siren. I want it all hard wired so I do not have to worry about batteries that fail.

One potential problem is my driveway is 700' long. The drive goes 300' and then turns left for the final 400' to the house. I would like to put a monitor at the corner there to record any vehicles or people who come and go. I do not want to hard wire almost 800' and I do not like battery power for those. Also like for the system to let me know if anyone pulls into my driveway. So this may require something different than standard security system. Not sure if I want or need to have it monitored but would like to have that capability.

Trying to design this system before I finish out the building so it is easier to run the wiring. I appreciate any help and ideas but for my final decision for security reasons I will not be posting exactly what I decide to do.


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My neighbor’s house is 800 to 1000 ft off the highway and he has cameras but I’m 99% sure he’s hard wired to the front gate. It’s a one time expense so if you can swing it, do it. Might even suggest running some extra wire for additional power there as well.
 
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Might want to look at Lorex system.
 
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I have a vivint system and I like it. There are several options out there. I have cameras with zoom capabilities and cameras with wide angle lenses
 
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I just started looking at solar powered camera's. I would think that would be the way to go over a hard wired one that depends on having power especially if the power goes down like it did here for a week..

Dave


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I talked to Vivint and they said they do not have more than 7 camera systems and that I could not install it myself. He said it would be about $4,000 for a 7 camera system and also nothing they could do about monitoring the driveway since it is too far. There were some other things to the more he talked the more I knew that system was not for me.

The lorex system seems interesting and similar to one they had at Costco. Which would work really well for video but not sure about other things needed.

From what I can tell so far the wireless type are lower resolution and also require a different receiver than the hard wired type but it can be done. Plus that fact of batteries which Solar charging can help on that.


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Curly do you have a dog? Helps a lot.
 
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I do plan on getting a Doberman after I get in there. Had one for many years and after I lost last one in 1987 have not got another due to work and space. Now I will have a good place for them and time to work with them.


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The Lorex system looks very nice and that along with some other things may be the way to go. Still doing research and Thank you for the suggestions.


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I just started looking at solar powered camera's. I would think that would be the way to go over a hard wired one that depends on having power especially if the power goes down like it did here for a week..

Dave


I'm gonna ask a dumb question. But there isn't any recording on the camera itself is there. Even if the camera is up and running, if the power is off to the receiver, you are kind of out of luck right?


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That is not a dumb question at all. I am also thinking of adding some game cameras as stand alone back up.


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I added a hard wired security system to my shop in about 2004 and still using it today. I added an 8 camera hard wired system to my property 4-5 years ago and its really nice to be able to rewind and look at something. I also have the app on my phone so I can see any camera anytime. My system is Avycon.
 
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I have two Dobermans and they are a pretty effective security systemBig Grin I also have a series of Nest cameras around the place. They work well but do require a good wifi system to operate. Helped the police catch a porch pirate we had when on vacation not long ago.


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On most IP based system, max cable length is 328Ft.

This is the reason why.
It must be 100m (328ft) or less in length to be certified. It is possible a longer cable will work, but it is not guaranteed. Shorter Cat 5 cables may also not work if there is a lot of Electromagnetic interference (EMI). Signal attenuation appears to be the limiting factor, too much signal loss and you can't guarantee 100 megabits per second.

The last install i did, (8 Pack) was at sons house. Did take some time with the wire fish. Was a Swann system. Only had 1 bad camera in 5 years. His new house he went wireless. He did the install.. We were last week talking about battery life. Wait and see... I was going to build a NAS box with 4 drives for storage and raid it up. A lot of the receivers come with an additional port whether it's USB to add an additional external drive. Just some pointers.

His Sargent has the 8 also. Had to replace the receiver after 5.5 years. Logic board problem.

But still working well.

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Originally posted by David Covey:
I just started looking at solar powered camera's. I would think that would be the way to go over a hard wired one that depends on having power especially if the power goes down like it did here for a week..

Dave


I'm gonna ask a dumb question. But there isn't any recording on the camera itself is there. Even if the camera is up and running, if the power is off to the receiver, you are kind of out of luck right?


You have a point.. Although there is still 2 things going for you.
First you could still monitor in real time. ( I haven't checked it out yet). I think Joe (SR4440) had power go down while we were at the Bracket Finals last year and his system alerted him that power was out. He knew before his electric company sent him a message..
Second. A back up battery UPS system could be used to power the receiver. That is what Joe used. He was only concerned it would go dead. But that could be cured with a solar panel to charge the battery.

Dave


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Thank you Guys for some very good information.


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Curly do you have a dog? Helps a lot.



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If you have windows, find a fabrication shop to make a steel bar grid that hinges from the top and has a hasp at the bottom. Install them on the inside.
A camera security system is nice to capture who broke in, but making it very hard to get it has more value.



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One thing my neighbor is about 200 yards away on another hill and has a good clean shot and a back hoe.
In addition to my security systems I will put up motion activated lights.


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Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.

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Making a little progress on the shop. Should be complete by July 1. Here is a sneak peek.

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Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.

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