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Electric Junior Dragster?

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October 19, 2019, 04:26 PM
Tom396
Electric Junior Dragster?
Was watching the IHRA World Finals today and saw an electric Junior Dragster going rounds. Looking at the IHRA rulebook, they are pretty specific about what engines Junior Dragsters can have. Maybe, because it is an electric motor vs. engine , it is OK? Take care. Tom Worthington


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October 19, 2019, 05:43 PM
HR3377
There are several of them at National Trail in Columbus
October 19, 2019, 08:10 PM
ferndaleflyer
Was one running years ago at Pageland, SC
October 19, 2019, 09:36 PM
Tom396
It seems odd they make a fuss about which internal combustion engines are allowed, but there is nothing at all about electric motors. Take care. Tom Worthington


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October 20, 2019, 08:49 AM
Michael Beard
The Sportsman class track champ at Dragway 42 was driving a Tesla. They're pretty interesting. Kinda like trying to race a golf cart. They're impressively fast, particularly for being so heavy. Runs 7.50's in the 1/8th. They come with their own set of issues. He basically tries to dial it based on the battery life. If it's a long weekend I've heard that it may run as quick as 11.70's in the 1/4 at the beginning of the weekend, and 12.30's by the end.


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October 20, 2019, 04:20 PM
Tom396
"This was only a drill, this was only a drill..." I just looked harder at the rulebook. Electric Junior Dragsters are addressed in the rulebook. There is no mention in the Engine Section. However, at the very end of the Junior Dragster Section, they lay out the requirements for Electric Junior Dragsters separately. Resume your regular programming. Take care. Tom Worthington


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October 20, 2019, 04:22 PM
Tom396
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
The Sportsman class track champ at Dragway 42 was driving a Tesla. They're pretty interesting. Kinda like trying to race a golf cart. They're impressively fast, particularly for being so heavy. Runs 7.50's in the 1/8th. They come with their own set of issues. He basically tries to dial it based on the battery life. If it's a long weekend I've heard that it may run as quick as 11.70's in the 1/4 at the beginning of the weekend, and 12.30's by the end.


I wonder if a portable generator would have enough capacity to keep one of those topped off? Take care. Tom Worthington


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October 20, 2019, 06:16 PM
Bucky
We were there and didn't ever run against the car. My son did win Friday's race. We did also see the Tesla.
We have seen that electric jr at other races. It seems to be crazy consistent, and runs considerably more mph than other cars running the same time.

Myself: I don't like it. No weather variations for the electric give it a big advantage over IC engines. It's a completely different mousetrap. They are quite expensive kits from Jegs. I tell everyone who is considering it to think hard about it. As more people see the unfairness in this, they will start insisting that they run in their own class. What fun will that be?


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October 21, 2019, 04:57 AM
regal
If you had a kid that went through the entire age range they look like a no brainer. Supposedly one setup can be tuned to run from the slow index all the way down to 7.90. I just wish the gas engine rules would be opened up to allow more options. At the end of the day it is bracket racing, not a stock eliminator class.

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October 21, 2019, 08:40 AM
TomR
quote:
Originally posted by Tom396:
It seems odd they make a fuss about which internal combustion engines are allowed, but there is nothing at all about electric motors. Take care. Tom Worthington


2018 IHRA rulebook, Page 24-25 have a full section on electric jr dragsters. Motor, batteries, voltage, etc.

https://cld.bz/QQ75PZu/24/

I don't keep up on the electric stuff so I'm really don't know how many options there are.


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October 21, 2019, 08:54 AM
TomR
quote:
Originally posted by Tom396:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
The Sportsman class track champ at Dragway 42 was driving a Tesla. They're pretty interesting. Kinda like trying to race a golf cart. They're impressively fast, particularly for being so heavy. Runs 7.50's in the 1/8th. They come with their own set of issues. He basically tries to dial it based on the battery life. If it's a long weekend I've heard that it may run as quick as 11.70's in the 1/4 at the beginning of the weekend, and 12.30's by the end.


I wonder if a portable generator would have enough capacity to keep one of those topped off? Take care. Tom Worthington


I think if you could keep one topped off at 100%, it would be deadly consistent. I'm not sure there's enough time between the late rounds to charge it though.

The Tesla supercharger stations charge at 480v. Our old director at my work had a charging station at his home (230v) and he would charge his overnight. 6-8 hours.


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October 21, 2019, 09:13 AM
Michael Beard
quote:
Originally posted by Tom396:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
The Sportsman class track champ at Dragway 42 was driving a Tesla. They're pretty interesting. Kinda like trying to race a golf cart. They're impressively fast, particularly for being so heavy. Runs 7.50's in the 1/8th. They come with their own set of issues. He basically tries to dial it based on the battery life. If it's a long weekend I've heard that it may run as quick as 11.70's in the 1/4 at the beginning of the weekend, and 12.30's by the end.


I wonder if a portable generator would have enough capacity to keep one of those topped off? Take care. Tom Worthington


No. We had electric hookups in our pit spots at the Bracket Finals, but he said it doesn't really do much. One pass kills 5 miles of range. He'd go find a supercharger station overnight when he went back to the hotel. Sometimes it would run very consistent. Other times it'd throw a wacky run out there. They just have *different* variables to deal with than regular engines.


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October 21, 2019, 03:14 PM
OhiomafiaWireGuy
McIlvain Race Cars built 1 or 2 for Jegs...I've seen them in various stages of the build. Pretty cool deal really...ET is completely controlled by a dial (speed controller) and capable of running well under 7.90.


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October 21, 2019, 04:17 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:
McIlvain Race Cars built 1 or 2 for Jegs...I've seen them in various stages of the build. Pretty cool deal really...ET is completely controlled by a dial (speed controller) and capable of running well under 7.90.


I know I am over simplifying. But why not just have a practice tree race?


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October 22, 2019, 01:12 PM
fastman-99
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:
McIlvain Race Cars built 1 or 2 for Jegs...I've seen them in various stages of the build. Pretty cool deal really...ET is completely controlled by a dial (speed controller) and capable of running well under 7.90.


I know I am over simplifying. But why not just have a practice tree race?


they already do, its called 1/8th mile racing!
October 23, 2019, 07:16 AM
SlyFox
Jr Dragsters are the most obnoxious sounding racing vehicle ever. I'm for making them ALL electric. Smile


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October 23, 2019, 03:48 PM
tommy d
Regal is correct, and that is the selling point for them. One car for your whole junior career and who knows what else. We haven't seen a huge advantage when they show up other than the kid who drives the ''JEGS'' car could win racing a Hot Wheels car. He's tough.
October 23, 2019, 04:54 PM
BP758
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
The Sportsman class track champ at Dragway 42 was driving a Tesla. They're pretty interesting. Kinda like trying to race a golf cart. They're impressively fast, particularly for being so heavy. Runs 7.50's in the 1/8th. They come with their own set of issues. He basically tries to dial it based on the battery life. If it's a long weekend I've heard that it may run as quick as 11.70's in the 1/4 at the beginning of the weekend, and 12.30's by the end.



Really surprised they let the Tesla race against the Dino cars. I’m not at all surprised a good driver won a championship with one. Create a class for them! Battery life , wind and track? Start a list on what affects the fossil fuel car..


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October 31, 2019, 03:06 PM
Edd Harney
If drag racing goes electric, I'm going fishing!




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October 31, 2019, 04:29 PM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by Edd Harney:
If drag racing goes electric, I'm going fishing!


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