Earlier today,I was watching the NMCA race on www.speedvideo.com. (Excellent coverage by the way)

They were running a bracket class and two guys decided to have a "staging duel".

With both pre-staged,nobody wanted to stage.One guy even opened his door as they both sat there.

Finally,somebody decided to stage.It wasted a lot of time,and I don't really see what the point of it was.

This has been discussed before,but I definitely believe that a "shot clock" is necessary in bracket racing.

If nobody wants to stage in a reasonable amount of time,then DQ both.

I agree for sure. After the last car prestages, give 20 seconds, and if no one has lit the bottom bulb, the starter motions them in. Then, at the starter's discretion; he can throw the redlight on them a couple moments afterward.

Know your opponent and how they stage, if you have to take awhile to match their way so be it. been there done that.

After both cars are pre staged 8 to 10 seconds and nobody is in they both are red and done.
Not fair to all that want to race for them to waist time,especially the pair in the water box

my comments stand and I'm sure shooter's as well...

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These attempts at new rules don't solve anything. There has already been an instance where both drivers refused to even pre-stage. After multiple warnings, they were both subsequently DQ'd. We don't need better rules, just better human beings. The starter and race director have all the discretion they need to deal with these issues on a case-by-case basis.

Was at Farmington years ago and 2 drivers decided to have a staging dual 1st round. After a couple minutes of both cars sitting there, the starter waved them off and told them to come back tomorrow, both were DQ'd.

I don't know why people play games or waste our time doing it. The races are long enough with the extra BS thrown in.

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:
These attempts at new rules don't solve anything. There has already been an instance where both drivers refused to even pre-stage. After multiple warnings, they were both subsequently DQ'd. We don't need better rules, just better human beings. The starter and race director have all the discretion they need to deal with these issues on a case-by-case basis.

Ding ding!

Go get your chicken dinner....

If you have a shot clock, what do you do if I skip the burnout and start the timer?

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Originally posted by Phil Dees:
If you have a shot clock, what do you do if I skip the burnout and start the timer?

Not picking on you Phil, but this will be the kind of crap people will start to get that competitive edge if you start a shot clock. Or both cars will take it all the way down to 1 before they both dive in. The next thing will be, at what point do we start the shot clock? If we are honest, we prolly see less than 5 staging battles a day, and MOST of them don't last longer than a minute.

Exactly my point!

I find them humorous, but I also know how to turn the ignition switch off. But I am also on alky and have used them for my own benefit, even when I wasn't the one battling.

Capitol Raceway had a shot clock mounted to the tree years ago. Both cars had 20 seconds to stage once 1 bulb was lit. People used to mess with others all the time. (Doorcars doing burnouts before dragsters, ect.)

All a shot clock does is give someone something else to worry about, use to their advantage or lose because of. It won't fix stupid.

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Originally posted by 329L:
I find them humorous, but I also know how to turn the ignition switch off.

THIS^^^

You’ve ready lost playin into thier game. Race ur race and let the starter/DD do thier job. Mike has already set examples here in Div 7.

I would like to see more starters pull them in and if they do not the DQ them right there and move on. Pretty soon all that stuff will stop.

I would not want more rules though.

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:
These attempts at new rules don't solve anything. There has already been an instance where both drivers refused to even pre-stage. After multiple warnings, they were both subsequently DQ'd. We don't need better rules, just better human beings. The starter and race director have all the discretion they need to deal with these issues on a case-by-case basis.

FTW!!! The rules are already in place and just need better enforcement at time.

Promote it and pack the bleachers! New rules tho, you get one minute to d ick around, after a minute starter throws reds and you both get out of the car and duke it out on the starting line. Winner gets to stage last.

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Promote it and pack the bleachers! New rules tho, you get one minute to d ick around, after a minute starter throws reds and you both get out of the car and duke it out on the starting line. Winner gets to stage last.

Sounds like a mix of bracket racing and professional wrestling! Could be on to something LOL

Just remember, never bring a knife to a gun fight.

Back to serious bidness.

Competition director and starter can put this to an end in short order.