I you find your self wanting to race and short of money.Just post you are lookikng for car to work on. You will have phone calls out butt. Down side wanting to run y junk ,but how do you turn down close to grand a weekend to work on fuel car? Made One post now headed to BG for Nostalgia TF and the VIR the next weekend to possibly get clutch man job on TF car. That is if old guy can do the job like it needs to be done. All just weekend gigs and should have done this 25 years ago.

Hey racing is racing no matter how .Right?

On sidew note did finally get soime runs w/o BS problems in FED lasat week at Farmington. Funny I seem to do good job on others cars and f--- mine up.

If it seems bracket racing has gotten too expensive for you, maybe you are just doing it wrong. Take care. Tom Worthington

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Originally posted by Tom396:
If it seems bracket racing has gotten too expensive for you, maybe you are just doing it wrong. Take care. Tom Worthington

Hell doing it likke everything else, WIDEOPEN full b ore to the floor or not at all. Just me. I could have built something cheaper and run on opentrailer and run lot cheaper and hell of lot less work, just not me.

Besides no matter how cheap, Truck needs gas,car need alky,crew guy needs food and beer(after racing). Hard as hell to beat money for working on race car especailt Tf Fed and then big show deal. Hell would probably have paid them to let me playt with that knid of toy.LOL

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Funny I seem to do good job on others cars and f--- mine up.

Thats because you have too much time on your hands to over think everything on your car

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Originally posted by Tom396:
If it seems bracket racing has gotten too expensive for you, maybe you are just doing it wrong. Take care. Tom Worthington

Best statement on bracket racing period !!!!!!!!!

It is bracket racing, you spend as much or as little as you want.

I guess if I wanted to I could spend what ever I wanted on it but I like to keep my stuff fairly low budget and all cash. At my age I am not going to finance a single thing. Paid cash for all my property, house, cars and everything else.

Still if you can not afford to do it right then you do not need to do it at all. No need in wasting money. Choose an ET, class and car that is in your budget and run it.

Never said it is a ca not afford the car part. Hell Car is way over spent on for abracket car.IMO
Just can't afford travel,fuel and entry till more work comes in. I doubt car itself cost anything more than anyother car. Fuel,oil aqnd plugs are about all it eats. Dang truck is on full pigout all the time.

The title more of joking statement or attention getter ,than actual financal strain comment. I do not do anything in HA mode. I may not have highest price impress everyone stuff. It will be nice(to suit me) and car will have supply of quality parts.Even if I have to make them. Ok that quality maybe in question.LOL

Hey with extra cash made working on others junk I have more money to run my junk. Not get rich money but not bad for playing.

Wideopen consider Pruffing your posts before you send them. Would be easier to read. Just sayin!

Any time you have the opportunity to gain experience and knowledge on someone else's dime, it's worth doing. Double worth it if it's something you love to do anyway.
I pit bished for years before I could fund my own program. The experience saved me lots of time and money.

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
Wideopen consider Pruffing your posts before you send them. Would be easier to read. Just sayin!

Uhhhh consider what?

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
Wideopen consider Pruffing your posts before you send them. Would be easier to read. Just sayin!

Probably better if had readers on soi could see half the keys I hit too.LOL

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I do not do anything in HA mode. I may not have highest price impress everyone stuff.

I wouldn't say someone racing in their budget is doing something HA. The stands at those races are full of people with a longstanding project at home, that they "just can't get around to getting ready" and then they go home and watch tv all week.

Sometimes, the track makes it unaffordable to race there.

A weekly bracket program is meant for the little guy. There are enough big money races out there if that's what you are into. For a local track to try and compete with them is dumb, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by TomR:
Sometimes, the track makes it unaffordable to race there.

A weekly bracket program is meant for the little guy. There are enough big money races out there if that's what you are into. For a local track to try and compete with them is dumb, in my opinion.

I agree. Take care. Tom Worthington

The track is there to make money. They try to put out program that can draw most people and they make most money. You support what ever best fits your needs or wants. Keep in mind some racers want low entry fees and some want higher payouts. Track will try to do what ever brings in most racers.

The whole problem is the economy and that has made it much more expensive to race. That cost of racing has lowered car counts in many cases which lowers payout to and that does not help anything. This may get MUCH worse.

One of my goals is to at least make a little more money than it costs to race for the year and I have done good up until now. In the current situation it is very hard to do.

We all tend to spend more on our hobby than maybe we should but fact remains if you can not afford your hobby then maybe you should find something that better fits your budget. Some are cutting back on the number of races they do because of budget but I do not think that is a good plan. For me I need to be in the seat as much as possible to stay on top of my game.

Maye should have said I live up to Sn. WIde ass open full bore on thr floor like two bit *****. Sry old line but fitting. If I can not do things i manor to which I am use to doing, I do not not do it.Never said anyone else has to do same. No difference on the job.If sub does it HA I tell him to come baxck when can do job right.

Again title more or attention getter than financoal statement. When money closer I just take weekend crwing job for while and bujild some extgra cashflow. Just like past wekend. I spent 3 days playin with another guys TF Fed and made pretty good noney. Enough to buy new spray gun,sanding supplies,primer and small piece of paint for car. Now just not to break ton of shyt at farmington this week .LOL Fixing slop in stering and moveing steering connection point to slow steering. Amybe go straighter and make 1/8 mi.le not 3/8 mile pass.

I'm a bit confused...I can race locally for 2 grand to win bottom bulb or 3 grand top..entry fee is 70 bottom or 85 bucks top..I tow open, always have..cost me about $180 total, drinks, food and fuel included...when I am low on funds that is what I do..if I have the dough I go to a big money event which costs much more..I race around 6 of those a year..

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Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I'm a bit confused...I can race locally for 2 grand to win bottom bulb or 3 grand top..entry fee is 70 bottom or 85 bucks top..I tow open, always have..cost me about $180 total, drinks, food and fuel included...when I am low on funds that is what I do..if I have the dough I go to a big money event which costs much more..I race around 6 of those a year..

You have a very good point there. Many of us are guilty of this. We want a big trailer to hold everything, a motorhome to stay comfortable at the track and those cost lots of money and use lots of gas. Also it becomes much more of a hassle to get the big rig out and then we miss the simple days of open trailer. I have fallen into that category.

Which brings us back to what I said earlier, this is bracket racing, you can spend as much or as little as you like. Just do it and have fun.


I have seen some at the track with $750,000 motorhome and $100,000 trailer for Junior Dragsters....... Seen similar deals where they say they spent all that money and they are not going to bring their stuff out for no $1500 to win race. Like we are not worthy to race them. Whatever, I am not impressed. If they can afford it and that is what they want go for it and have fun. When I line up against someone I could care less how much they spend.

Now we are all facing the fact that it does cost way more to race than it did just 4 years ago but once again it is up to you and your budget what you do.

Simple answer, no dough stay home. This was a consideration 35 to 40 years ago.

Interesting to note, between costs in general and tree huggers I would have never thought I could be drag racing at this period of my existence. More so with a grandson coming of age and more behind.

Racing cost no issue, do not really care about payouts. If I depended on winning dough to either race or eat I would be real skinny. I would and have raced for a plastic trophy.

Just got a new faster full cage car. Not sure how will like, old/current car has been great fun and up until recent times would take a beating and just run some more. Was super cost effective and a blast entering any class even Q16 to fill field.

Been out since last Nov after could not make 1st round 4 times in season, only missed first round 4 times in 18 years prior.

The only issue now is weather for next few months.

You know, another of my beliefs is that "I can't afford to race, that is why I run brackets instead."

And one of the things happening today, in the bracket race world, is the advent of ET cutoffs. Many tracks in my area will not allow any dial in slower than some arbitrarily selected number. As in, you can't dial this number or better, goodbye. THIS is an example of tracks making it more expensive to compete.

Bracket racers are their own worst enemy. Prove me wrong. Take care. Tom Worthington