Bracket Talk
T/D Car Counts

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October 20, 2018, 09:41 PM
"The Bender"
T/D Car Counts
So this weekend the PDRA race in Virginia has 61 cars and the D2 NHRA race in Rockingham has 14 cars

Thoughts?


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October 20, 2018, 11:01 PM
Big Steve
D2 sucks and PDRA does not.....

I believe there was 31 cars at the D3 race in St Louis but the weather forecast was iffy and only got 1 hit
October 21, 2018, 08:08 AM
TORQIN
Participants speak volumes...600 plus cars at the million in D2 backyard...
October 21, 2018, 09:44 AM
Big Steve
Not taking anything away from those participating but I bet about half of those 61 cars at the PDRA are not true Top Dragsters and could not come close to qualifying at an NHRA event, allot of 4.30-4.70 dragsters in the "regular top dragster" class as they call it

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October 22, 2018, 09:40 AM
sc4087
quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
Not taking anything away from those participating but I bet about half of those 61 cars at the PDRA are not true Top Dragsters and could not come close to qualifying at an NHRA event, allot of 4.30-4.70 dragsters in the "regular top dragster" class as they call it


yup. 3.92 bump for TD


Mike Greene




October 22, 2018, 09:56 AM
BP758
Is that called a Medium Dragster?


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October 22, 2018, 10:03 AM
"The Bender"
Too bad the track had gone away by the time 1st round came around about 6. About half the T/S and T/D cars couldn't get down......


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2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

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October 22, 2018, 10:11 AM
pauley
tried watching on the live stream. looked like a sh1t show. why they gave the 3rd hit after having rain and now running on Monday I do not understand that decision. but to each his own.

ep- the slow TD was full of 4.30 to 4.60 cars
October 22, 2018, 10:13 AM
BP758
You need to post that on track temp post Brian. There needs to be a STD. The dead hook lower HP boys ( not dissin y'all) don’t get it...

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October 22, 2018, 11:42 AM
Big Steve
quote:
Originally posted by pauley:
tried watching on the live stream. looked like a sh1t show. why they gave the 3rd hit after having rain and now running on Monday I do not understand that decision. but to each his own.

ep- the slow TD was full of 4.30 to 4.60 cars


And why did they run 2nd round of bracket bash, slow TD and slow TS before running 1st round of the the Elite TD and TS cars. SMH...
October 22, 2018, 02:26 PM
Brian McHattie
I was one of those 4.30-4.60 cars all season long (4.45 to 4.35) and quite frankly fed up with hearing all you elitist pricks pissing and moaning about it. I was able to qualify for 2 elite16 fields over the course of the season. Now, my gripe is this, you don't want us, or what you so lovingly refer to as "medium dragsters", then regulate us out of your fields, all over the country. Either get all your elitist buddies together, show up, and make it so us "slow" guys can't qualify for any fields, or suck it up buttercup and send it. PDRA was gracious enough to give us "slow" guys a place to race, and it payed dividends. You want to make smartass remarks about not being able to qualify at an NHRA event, well I could have qualified at a number here in div 3 this season, why you ask, because there weren't enough elitists to keep us slow guys out.

To summarize, if you don't like the "slow cars" in your elitist world, bring enough of your buddies to keep us out, or go whine and cry to the sanctioning bodies to regulate us out of your world.
October 22, 2018, 03:46 PM
BP758
quote:
Originally posted by Brian McHattie:
I was one of those 4.30-4.60 cars all season long (4.45 to 4.35) and quite frankly fed up with hearing all you elitist pricks pissing and moaning about it. I was able to qualify for 2 elite16 fields over the course of the season. Now, my gripe is this, you don't want us, or what you so lovingly refer to as "medium dragsters", then regulate us out of your fields, all over the country. Either get all your elitist buddies together, show up, and make it so us "slow" guys can't qualify for any fields, or suck it up buttercup and send it. PDRA was gracious enough to give us "slow" guys a place to race, and it payed dividends. You want to make smartass remarks about not being able to qualify at an NHRA event, well I could have qualified at a number here in div 3 this season, why you ask, because there weren't enough elitists to keep us slow guys out.

To summarize, if you don't like the "slow cars" in your elitist world, bring enough of your buddies to keep us out, or go whine and cry to the sanctioning bodies to regulate us out of your world.


Brain, nobody here is poking fun at you or your car or anyone else’s. The Medium thing came up long as a joke for one of the posters on here. I’m pretty sure he was the one who coined the phrase. The post was about car counts at PDRA and why NHRA had less. It’s obvious PDRA has great car counts. None of this is serious and most is just banter. If I.....offended you or anyone else I’ll appologize first. Not my intent.. As for the track temp or prep. That’s another story and another thread..
BTW 4.30- 4.60 is a great ride!


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October 22, 2018, 07:14 PM
Mike MacBrair
STK 758 BP, why don't you take your overrated " Stock Eliminator" car, which is really just a glorified bracket car, and go pound sand!


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October 22, 2018, 09:46 PM
BP758
quote:
Originally posted by Mike MacBrair:
STK 758 BP, why don't you take your overrated " Stock Eliminator" car, which is really just a glorified bracket car, and go pound sand!


Now you've hurt my feelings Mike! Overrated yes, glorified...I'll get back to you.


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October 23, 2018, 10:31 AM
T/D6591
Me being the proud medium dragster that you speak of I must say that my Feeling is hurt,lol. I was at St Louis this weekend but without my car. Giving the air conditions we had there I would say that I could of ran into the 6.20’s or lower. Not very often I see -200 to -800 ft conditions. As far as car count there we actually had 35 cars but with only the one run a few had issues in the lanes and didn’t make a pass. Also given that there was 2 Divisionals,the PDRA Race and the Million all on the same weekend it is no real surprise that the car count suffered at some races. Brian I believe Barry was apologizing to you if you go back and reread what he posted.


October 23, 2018, 03:10 PM
Brian McHattie
I read it, and sorry if my post took aim at one person, it was more of a blanket rant. I am slowly, season by season increasing, or should I say decreasing, my ET's. Just fed up with the condescending nature of some.

Thanks for clarifying your post, again, sorry to have taken aim at one individual.
October 23, 2018, 03:19 PM
pauley
I could have ran TD at rockingham with my 4.80 car but have to have a 15 suit and hans just because I have TD on scoop. I am sure that hurts car counts at those races. what is the rule at pdra races regarding suit and hans?

ep
October 23, 2018, 03:27 PM
Big Steve
Why does the PDRA have 2 different TD and TS classes? Seems to me they create an "elitist" class and that mentality by doing that.

Wouldn't it be better to just have 32 car qualified fields and anyone who does not qualify can race the bracket bash if they want....
October 23, 2018, 04:11 PM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by pauley:
I could have ran TD at rockingham with my 4.80 car but have to have a 15 suit and hans just because I have TD on scoop. I am sure that hurts car counts at those races. what is the rule at pdra races regarding suit and hans?

ep


They follow NHRA rules


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2018 PDRA T/D #5
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2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
October 23, 2018, 04:30 PM
sammy christian
quote:
Why does the PDRA have 2 different TD and TS classes? Seems to me they create an "elitist" class and that mentality by doing that.

Wouldn't it be better to just have 32 car qualified fields and anyone who does not qualify can race the bracket bash if they want....

And this goes for both TS and TD-
I believe the intent is good but execution sucks. Gives the "typical" cars a real race with an equal purse and entice more than just 16 to show up because we know where that takes us.
Format works for certain venues and not others.
48 get to race when 65 show up, problem is when 20 show up- 16 is it.
32 makes sense for most but it would almost be certain that several of the top 8-10 would not run all races with the likelihood of short fields at several events.
keeps the playing field close, 3.80 cars are not coming out to run against 4.90 cars, no matter what kinda BS some will say. Slow guys will criticize endlessly but the truth is 4.50-4.90 is easy, much faster than that and things get more unpredictable. I'll leave it at that, whether anyone likes it not.
The investment is too large to bother unless there is some reasonable goal for the fast guys.
Medium cars run the 32, fast guys run the 16. just sucks that few tracks can support both fields being full.


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