Bracket Talk
No Prep / Bracket

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January 25, 2022, 09:51 AM
Phil Dees
No Prep / Bracket
Has anyone here ever bracket raced at a no prep event?
January 25, 2022, 10:56 AM
FootbrakeJim
I always thought those 2 things were completely different sports. I have seen no prep index racing, but not pure brackets. Following along, may learn something new. Smile


Dan "Jim" Moore
Much too young to feel this damn old!!
January 25, 2022, 11:01 AM
Phil Dees
I might be reading it wrong, but it appears Savannah River is going to do it March 4-5.
January 25, 2022, 02:37 PM
Yellow Ticket
I've index raced at a "no prep" event, but the track had a bracket race the night before, so it wasn't exactly "no prep"

I liked the idea of the index, but they just go instant green, so you have to watch the starter to throw the switch instead of the tree and hope the tree is set on a pro tree.
January 25, 2022, 02:45 PM
Holytown
I'd be interested in this.

The driver couldn't just hit the tree and plan on killing X, or running it all out. You'd have to feel the car more.

It would get figured out soon enough, but it would make for some interesting races IMO.

Only issue I'd see is the safety factor of no glue. You would have to trust that the other guy is going to lift if he needs to. Also, I could see it getting very dangerous having someone running up on someone else, if the slow car crossed into the other lane.
January 25, 2022, 02:58 PM
TomR
"no prep" means wad your **** up into the jersey wall or your competitor. No thanks.


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January 25, 2022, 05:05 PM
Goob
We used to bracket race like that all the time back in the 90's and previous.....good times, a car that would repeat within .02 was king.


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January 25, 2022, 05:14 PM
Blake4128
I'm with Goob seems like we did this a lot in the past!
January 25, 2022, 07:35 PM
Tom396
None of the ballers would be interested in this sort of thing. Can you imagine spending a fortune to get your stuff running within .001 on every pass and then try and run on no prep? Big Grin Without being specific, I feel like I have been running on something akin to no prep at one track I frequently run on. Wink Take care. Tom Worthington


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January 25, 2022, 08:09 PM
Wooley
Back in the 1990s when I started bracket racing that’s basically how it was done before first time run( we got three back then) track was swept then sprayed about 200/300 foot then it was time to go. Track maybe got blown off or swept between rounds but that was it. Usually has 150+ cars a night every Saturday night March to October.
January 25, 2022, 09:03 PM
Hotrod Corvette
Back in the days of 3 time trials...To get the track prepped/rubbered in.


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January 25, 2022, 09:14 PM
Bucky
Honestly, as long as the track was consistent in condition, I would race it. It doesn't have to be sticky as heck. I can adjust to it. But if it changes greatly during the day, then only the slowest of the cars will be consistent at all.


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January 26, 2022, 06:42 AM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by Blake4128:
I'm with Goob seems like we did this a lot in the past!


At the last bracket race we still were. LOL



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January 26, 2022, 07:51 AM
Phil Dees
Tom, I'll race almost anywhere with a timing system, that's why I'm interested in this one. Just gotta get some details.
January 26, 2022, 08:26 AM
ferndaleflyer
When I started in the late 1950-early 69s there was no such thing as prep until you could afford a gallon jug of VHT to put under your slicks and burn through. You needed to hook in a mud hole.
January 26, 2022, 08:47 AM
Toad1
In the 1985-1995 era I owned/operated a couple tracks. We focused a lot more on the keeping sand and grit out of the staging lanes and burnout area as it ended up on the starting line, still does today actually in a lot of places.
We would wash from burnout box to about 100' past start line every Friday with Tide. Sprayed about 150' out one time. From then on we used 50/50 mix to touch up a 20' area.
Cars were not as fast but the racing was every bit as good. Now a track spends $1000 on VHT every day and wonders why they can't show a profit. We used to use two drums a year and cars repeated as good as they do today.
Things change, that's the way it is. Is it "progress" maybe, maybe not. 25% of the cars today need the full 1/8th sprayed with 1000 HP engines to be deadly consistent.

A track could save a lot of money if they focused on getting the track surface clean, free of oil residue, then lightly sprayed it in first 60'.

Just an opinion, I hate seeing tracks dropping bracket races due to expenses and because racers ***** about no traction but haven't adjusted the suspension in 8 years.

We just need to work together to keep tracks open, that's all.


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January 26, 2022, 09:06 AM
Phil Dees
Fern, VHT in a dish soap bottle wrapped in a shop rag and duct tape.
January 26, 2022, 09:44 AM
Eman
Friday nights T&T then a gamblers race is no prep around here.
January 26, 2022, 09:52 AM
Goob
Stick cars spin every pass, and are deadly consistent. Ever watch Pro Stock?

One of the most fun days I ever had racing was a Sunday race at a Friday night track...it was hot and greasy, my car spun all the way through 1st gear every pass, and actually ran within .02 all day.


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January 26, 2022, 10:55 AM
Bob Deniker
Just like bracket racing, but way more dangerous. Roll Eyes Frown


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