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Looking for input on security for my new to me shop. Should be moving soon and our new location has a 1600 sq ft commercial metal building/shop next to the house. Shop is located about 80 feet away from the house. I've had pretty good experience with the Ring cameras at another home I have. With this new home, I have concerns about the Ring wireless signal getting into the building, due to metal construction and distance from where our wireless router will likely be inside the house. Ring advertises a range extender, but I don't know anyone with experience with it. Anyone have experience with it, any other systems, or have any recommendations for shop security. I'm open to the "professionals" like CPI or ADT as well, but do not know much about them. Thanks.


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Look into a mesh network like an eero system for your wifi. You still may be too far for it to work but just a though
 
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Look into a mesh network like an eero system for your wifi. You still may be too far for it to work but just a though


Just looked that up. I'm not the tech savvy type, so never heard of this. Looks like a viable solution. Thanks.


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First off go with multiple layers of security. Video cameras, motion detectors, lights, driveway sensors. Game Cameras can be helpful. Driveway sensor / alarm.
The Lorex system is pretty good, I think Costco sells it.
https://drr.infopop.cc/eve/for...652/m/9797089596/p/1

Big dog can be a deterrent, people are scared of my Doberman.

I think it is a good idea to have the recorder etc. locked up and hidden so they can not get to it and remove evidence they were there.

One thing will not stop them but multiple layers of security has better chance of stopping them and catching them.

And last get good insurance on everything so if you will not lose sleep worrying about what if.


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First off go with multiple layers of security. Video cameras, motion detectors, lights, driveway sensors. Game Cameras can be helpful. Driveway sensor / alarm.
The Lorex system is pretty good, I think Costco sells it.
https://drr.infopop.cc/eve/for...652/m/9797089596/p/1

Big dog can be a deterrent, people are scared of my Doberman.

I think it is a good idea to have the recorder etc. locked up and hidden so they can not get to it and remove evidence they were there.

One thing will not stop them but multiple layers of security has better chance of stopping them and catching them.

And last get good insurance on everything so if you will not lose sleep worrying about what if.



Just looked them over. Impressive from what website shows. Looks like a good option. Didn't see anything in respect to range, but may have missed that. With coverage I'm looking for, may get expensive, but the peace of mind will be worth it. A big dog would definitely be nice, and not ruling that out, but definitely not happening anytime soon. Just lost our 3rd and last remaining dog last week. I do have insurance policy on the building and contents, but will need to re-address the coverage amounts.

Speaking of insurance, what experience do you have with race car insurance? I've heard of a couple that do race car specific policies, but haven't done enough research to know what's best for my needs.


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We use Ring for our detached shop with a wifi extender. Works fine.

We use Hagerty for our race car insurance. Don Kennedy is a racer and their motorsports agent. Hit him on FB.

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We use Hagerty for our race car insurance. Don Kennedy is a racer and their motorsports agent. Hit him on FB.


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We use Ring for our detached shop with a wifi extender. Works fine.

We use Hagerty for our race car insurance. Don Kennedy is a racer and their motorsports agent. Hit him on FB.

SL...


Thanks. Had a good conversation with him today.


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Ring cameras, or for that matter any camera only gives you limited information after a theft. The guy still gets away with your stuff so you have to chase the dirt bag down, and 12-gauge shotgun shells are getting expensive.

Better idea.

Personally I prefer a more effective "Pro Active Method", turning loose a bucket of rattlesnakes, or a couple of well trained pits along with self locking doors that require an act of God to re-open. These work well only when the garage is sound proof, the screaming always keeps me awake.

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Move to a better area
 
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Ring cameras, or for that matter any camera only gives you limited information after a theft. The guy still gets away with your stuff so you have to chase the dirt bag down, and 12-gauge shotgun shells are getting expensive.

Better idea.

Personally I prefer a more effective "Pro Active Method", turning loose a bucket of rattlesnakes, or a couple of well trained pits along with self locking doors that require an act of God to re-open. These work well only when the garage is sound proof, the screaming always keeps me awake.

Bob


Bob, I like the way you think.

One other thing I did at my house was built it back so you can not see it from the road so most people do not even know there is a house there.


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Ring cameras, or for that matter any camera only gives you limited information after a theft. The guy still gets away with your stuff so you have to chase the dirt bag down, and 12-gauge shotgun shells are getting expensive.

Better idea.

Personally I prefer a more effective "Pro Active Method", turning loose a bucket of rattlesnakes, or a couple of well trained pits along with self locking doors that require an act of God to re-open. These work well only when the garage is sound proof, the screaming always keeps me awake.

Bob


Funny the snakes are a mean prank Iwant to play at christmas.Leavce dewalt box's in back of truck with weight in them and copper head. Down side is not seeing face of thieving pos when they open i. LMAO

Slowly building new shop.If not for paying nfor land would be done. I have 5 cameras on site to keep track of materials and hopefully not disappear, Two are fake and veryt obvious to anyone. Had two guys show up. Get out of truck and start to lumber. One saw camera pointed out ot other, Dropped boards tucked heads in liul ***** hoody and hurried away. Watched on another camera.Know the truck and let it out that I did and was hunting for owner.Not that can do anything legally.




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Do they make a ring system with gun fire sounds. Be funny as hell. Instead of IU see you they get loud gun fire. If that can be done please advise I might spend the money for it.




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Ring cameras, or for that matter any camera only gives you limited information after a theft. The guy still gets away with your stuff so you have to chase the dirt bag down, and 12-gauge shotgun shells are getting expensive.

Better idea.

Personally I prefer a more effective "Pro Active Method", turning loose a bucket of rattlesnakes, or a couple of well trained pits along with self locking doors that require an act of God to re-open. These work well only when the garage is sound proof, the screaming always keeps me awake.

Bob


Bob, I really do like your idea, but it's not practical for me right now. Your snake suggestion brought back the memory of Don Johnsons character in Miami Vice, with the alligator security system. Think he named him Elvis? LOL... I had 3 dogs over the past 15 years and they were great for letting us know when any unwanted guests may be near. One large, loud and mean when needed, one medium size pit, quiet, sneaky and quite capable, and one small'ish psychotic loud crazy lab mix gal. Sadly, they've passed on over the past few years, most recent a month ago. Given our current living situation, (wifes health issues and our 3 year old grandbaby), dogs with the intimidation factor aren't a good option.

I had considered the Lorex system, it looks really good for my needs. Since I have several Ring cameras at another property though, I decided to put in Ring cameras outside the new house and garage. Once I rent/sell that other property, I'll move those cameras over here, inside and out. Surprisingly, my wireless signal is good to the garage. Inside, not so much, assuming due to being a metal siding. As I understand it, I should be able to put a range extender in the house and a receiver of some sort at the window of the garage closest to house so I can get better signal inside.

Wideopen, the gunshots would be priceless. Catch some dummy with that, crapping themselves as they run away.... Priceless...


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At 80 ft, I would bury an underground rated cat 5 cable, and install a high speed access point. You end up adding other stuff that needs internet access later, IE computers, TV, Wi-Fi calling for your phone.


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At 80 ft, I would bury an underground rated cat 5 cable, and install a high speed access point. You end up adding other stuff that needs internet access later, IE computers, TV, Wi-Fi calling for your phone.


Good point, and something I'm surprised I hadn't thought about yet, given my 20 years history in the cable industry. 12 years away and purposely trying to remove all that out of my head seems to have cleared it from my mind. Guess I'm too focused on Wi-Fi? Thanks for the suggestion.


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